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Emily Deschanel’s Pregnancy Must-Haves: Her Best Friend, Vegan Goods

07/08/2011 at 04:00 PM ET
Courtesy Ladies Home Journal

Cravings aside, when it comes to pregnancy essentials, Emily Deschanel has a solid go-to.

“I have a friend from junior high who’s expecting a baby right before I am,” the Bones actress, who will welcome her first child with husband David Hornsby this fall, tells Ladies’ Home Journal‘s August issue.

“Now we’re sharing stories about our cravings and how our bodies are changing. We compare notes.”

She adds: “Having someone like this is so reassuring. It connects me to an essential part of myself.”

But when it comes to cravings, Deschanel’s go-to fixes all have one thing in common: She’s vegan, so she doesn’t consume any animal products, including dairy and eggs.

“I still have to defend myself because people don’t understand it,” the mom-to-be, who announced her pregnancy in March, says of her diet. “As a pregnant woman especially, people will say to me, ‘You must eat meat and dairy.’ You really have to tap into your self-esteem whenever people try to convince you you’re making the wrong choice.”

Ready to raise a child, Deschanel, 34, reflected on her own upbringing. Born in Los Angeles, she wasn’t always in-tune with the more shallow demands of the industry.

“In Hollywood there’s so much pressure to appear a certain way — to be skinny and to look young,” she says. “When I was growing up, I never cared about whether I was pretty or not. But when I was 12, a friend’s mom told me I was flat-chested and had fat thighs.”

She continues: “That really hurt my feelings and it kind of scarred me. I started becoming aware of how other people judged me.”

– Alison Schwartz

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Amber on

I don’t think it’s a Hollywood thing to have people judge you. I grew up in Paris, France and I also overheard a friend’s mom tell my mom that she thought my thighs were fat when I was 14. I think it’s just the disease of our time, to be so judgemental. It almost caused to me to get an eating disorder. Btw, at that time I was 5 ft 3 and weighed 110 lbs, so the remark of the friend’s mom was quite ridiculous. She probably just meant that my body was changing into that of a woman, but at that time her words did not come across to me like that. I just heard ‘fat’ :-S.

On another note: I think it’s great that she’s a vegan! I’m a vegan too and I recognize everything she says about constantly having to explain yourself. Eating vegan is actually really healthy, but unfortunately it’s not the norm (yet) so many people don’t understand it and make strange remarks…lol. I try not to get too bothered by it though and I usually try to explain it to them.

tato on

your ‘friends’ mom was a rotten woman…
you are a beautiful person & a great actor.
she should be lucky to know you.

i need a name on

5’3″ and 110 lbs – 15-20 years ago that was considered UNDERWEIGHT. The woman was jealous. I am glad you saw through the teenage BS and are a healthy vegan lady.

K on

That is so sad. That’s such a hurtful thing to hear at all, let alone when you are so young. I also had similar experiences that caused me great pain. And I definitely agree with you, Amber. It is this generation, not just Hollywood. It’s just that Hollywood and the media are aggravating the judgment. There are magazines, tv shows, and websites devoted to judging women, their looks and clothing.

Congratulations to, Emily. I hope you enjoy your pregnancy and have a healthy baby when it is all said and done!

Sadie on

Geez, how insecure and miserable was that woman to tell someone else’s child she was flat chested with fat thighs?

Sharron Woodward on

It was a proud moment indeed to see that Emily spoke about being a vegan.

bill on

Well, i guess the insensitive bitch that criticized a 12 yr old’s body can eat crow now. Emily has been quite successful despite being less than fully developed at age 12. She has grown in to a very beautiful woman, but is even more appreciated for her intelligent and sensitive portrayal of the ever entertaining Dr. Brennan. I hope we we can move beyond judging people by their appearance and particularly valuing women by their bra size.

I have 2 beautiful daughters who are less than well endowed in that regard but God has blessed them with intelligence, wit, generous and caring hearts and a sensitivity of others that many adults lack. I’m confident that they will be very successful and happy even if their cleavage isn’t the first thing you notice.

carletta on

I think it is funny how your cover reads “real beauty” and the women on the cover, except for Emily maybe, have had plastic surgery and botox. How is that real beauty?

Kristen on

@Sharron- Me too! It was great to read about her being vegan and continuing to be vegan despite her pregnancy. See Natalie Portman- it can be done! We need to see more examples of pregnant women who are vegan and then raising their children as vegan to dispel the myth that it isn’t possible and isn’t healthy.

Jillian on

It can be done being vegan but if the person chides to change their eating for their baby there is nothing wrong with it!! Np made the best decision for HER family and EMily made the best decision for HER family!

blahblahblah on

So being vegan gives one fat thighs?

A on

I’m not vegan, but I give mad props to those who are. Especially being pregnant. I believe Emily has been Vegan for about 18 years or so, so her body is completely used to it. Eating meat products while she’s pregnant would probably make her feel bad, even though the baby might “need” it. I believe with the proper nutrition,which Emily appears to be perfectly knowledgeable about, there is no need to eat meat during pregnancy.

I’m so excited to see this baby! I hope it inherits the Deschanel eyes!

Marie on

I too, am vegan, for a very long time. My toddler son, is strong & beautiful. So glad she spoke out!!

Lisa on

It’s such a myth that being vegan is somehow detrimental to your health. There are so many options available and is really not that difficult to maintain if you are willing to live the lifestyle. Good for her. I wish her well in her pregnancy and impending motherhood. It’s so much fun.

Luna on

I’m not vegan, but like A, give props to anyone who is. I think Emily is a beautiful woman and will make an excellent mother. It cracks me up to think that people criticize vegans as ‘unhealthy’ and yet America has an extremely high obesity rate (which is unhealthy) and some of these people themselves might be or have children who are obese. I try not to criticize someone else’s choices unless they could seriously endanger their or someone else’s life, and I really don’t feel being vegan falls into either category. Congratulations Emily and David!

Rachel on

I’m so happy she is sticking to her vegan diet even while pregnant. I hear about women who are veg or vegan that will eat meat while pregnant because they crave it.

Kitty on

I’ve been thinking of going vegan as well. I had my child at 34 and I thought it was a great age to have a kid. I had done and seen all things I’d wanted to do in my twenties and was ready to have a kid. I love being a mom! Congrats to Emily!

Indira on

Vegan isn’t necessarily healthy and there’s pros and cons to every dietary lifestyle. I know plenty of fat vegans and vegetarians, it sounds wild to some but it really isn’t uncommon. Chicken, beef, pork, peas, kale,quinoa, if it’s prepared in oil and saturated fat it’ll be unhealthy.

marhartm on

I never buy into what people say about others people’s bodies. Whether they are pretty or not why does it matter? They just say that to us to tear us down so they can make themselves feel better. Self-esteem is more important than having a “perfect” face or body. God made you the way you are for a reason and NO ONE has the RIGHT to tear you down. You cannot let someone make you feel bad without your permission. People come in all shapes and sizes, no one is exempt. I just try and not let what others think about me affect me, now that I am older. Lots of young women have issues and what you do with those issues to make you better is all anyone should ask of you. I feel every woman is unique in their own way.

klutzy_girl on

Love Emily! She looks great here. And I can’t wait until season seven of Bones. Hate that we have to wait until November!

aaustin on

My sister is a vegan and she just had a healthy baby girl born on June 30th, 8.1 lbs. I love watching Bones and I respect her for making her OWN decisions about what to put into her body.

Jess on

congrats to her….there’s nothing wrong with botox and surgery carletta so why don’t you be quiet.

Tink on

Carletta: given that the other two ladies have quie obvious wrinkles its hard to fathom why you think they have had surgery…all three are beautiful women and none look like they’ve had anything ‘done’.

Summer on

Tink – A quick Google search will reveal that the other two ladies have had plastic surgery and/or procedures (i.e. Botox). They are beautiful and I have nothing against cosmetic enhancement, but call it for what it is. It does not appear that Deschanel has. At 34, I would hope not!

fuzibuni on

While I very much understand why people are vegan (I was vegan for awhile), and I can respect the ethical decision not to eat meat… to me, veganism is a bit elitist due to the fact that it’s usually only people living in a somewhat affluent western society that can make this kind of decision.

Most people on earth don’t even have a choice about what they are going to eat each day… it’s dictated by the resources they have.

There weren’t any early cultures who were naturally vegan. Human beings are designed to be omnivores. We have canine teeth specifically for this purpose.

Even in India, where 30% of the population is vegetarian, almost everyone still consumes animal products because there are certain essential nutrients that are only found in animal products.

If you’re vegan and pregnant, make sure you find a way to get enough vitamin A and B12. And beware of over-consumption of soy based products… studies show that too much can cause birth defects due to the phyto-estrogen it contains. A close friend of mine who is vegan had a baby with hypospadius, which is 5 times more common in babies born to vegetarians. And ultimately, listen to what your body is telling you it needs.

JessicaB on

who tells a 12 year old ANYTHING about her developing body? what a socially inappropriate thing to do!

amsjll on

Fuzibuni, your argument is somewhat valid. From a biologigical point of view are are indeed omnivores. Our teeth our designed for both, so are our digestive systems. Thats because the easiest way to consume the proper nutrients is a diet from different sources. But we also have brains, and food labels, and google. That is something primitive cultures dont have. Its perfectly possible to have a nutrient rich diet with the access to high quality food we have, especially someone with money like Emily. Do I ever plan to give up my animal products? No. I am a meat and veggie person. I have no taste for most grains or fruits. To each their own. But an educated vegan can be completely healthy, including during their pregnancy.

Catie on

It’s ridiculous what some people will say, particularly to teenage girls. I’m quite hippy and whenever I’d eat a popsicle I’d hear “A moment on the lips, a lifetime on the hips,” from various relatives. Thanks. I’ll be sure to reiterate your statements to my bones. Maybe they’ll decide to magically move. It really is becoming a bit of an epidemic all over, not just in L.A.. Unsolicited nonsense opinions should be kept to oneself.

Anyway, I’m glad to hear she doesn’t let any of that crap get to her!

Angie on

Per my “quick Google search” it looks like people guessing that Julie Bowen had Botox or implants or questioning it, nothing definite. Not quite sure where some people are getting their info…

M on

fuzibuni, you are extremely ignorant. There is nothing elitist about being Vegan. Veganism is the cheapest and most accessible diet out there. Beans and grains (vegan staples) are by far the cheapest foods you can buy in bulk. Also, Beans and grains are cheap and easy to find in every country. You are also wrong, there have been vegan societies in the past. In fact, all humans were once vegan. Humans weren’t always omnivores–we developed canines through evolution.

Neanderthals, part of the Homininae subfamily (just like humans) are our immediate ancestors. Look at their teeth: http://scienceblogs.com/afarensis/upload/2006/03/neanderthal_skull2.jpg Do you see canines?

Our intestines are proof that we were originally meant to be herbivores. No other carnivorous or omnivorous animal has long intestines like humans do. True carnivores and omnivores have short, straight intestines meant for fast digestion. After all, meat rots quickly, so the shorter the intestines, the faster they can expell the meat from their bodies. Further proof is that our saliva is not acidic, it is alkaline, just like other herbivorous animals. For carnivorous and omnivorous animals, the digestion process begins in the mouth. The acid in the saliva helps break down the meat before it is even swallowed. However, the most obvious proof is that we are unable to kill animals without man made tools. We are not BORN with weapons in our hands. Before weapons were invented, humans were 100% herbivores! Our closest living relative is the Bonobo, which is 98% vegan. Another close relative of humans is the Orangutan, which is 100% vegan.

There are far more unhealthy omnivore children than vegan children. Just look at the obesity rates.

Marky on

M, I’ve seen obese vegans and obese vegan children. I’ve seen obese meat eaters, as well. I won’t lay any kind of trip on you, or tell you what to eat–I ask you to do the same.

What fuzibuni probably meant was that vegans tend to be snobby and sel-righteous about their choice of diet, constantly trying to make meat eaters feel as if they are savages and uncaring about animals.

That’s the elitist attitude I see (and hear), as well as the “you have to keep the menu at the family holiday meal vegan or I won’t come because it makes me just SICK to see that disgusting meat on the table, do you know how it was raised!?” A tad over the top for many of us.

Like I said, you eat what you want and I’ll eat what I want and why should that bother anyone? I’m tired of hearing how you are taking the high road because you don’t eat meat.
See that’s what people mean by elitist; it doesn’t really have to do with what–it has to do with how and why and the fact you keep pounding on those who choose to do differently.

Rangers on

Congrats on Emily for standing up for herself. It’s a real shame that she has to defend herself, her beliefs, her family & even her own thoughts, etc. She shouldn’t have 2 & if anyone doesn’t like it then they can go to hell! Shame on people for questioning how she chooses to live HER life. Some people have no room to talk & I am glad some people still have some manners. Cheers to Emily whom is in a class all her own! She’s not apologetic & shouldn’t have to be. Kudos to living on her own terms & being better for it!!

Jillian on

I don’t find anything elitist about being vegan. Most of the people I know who are, live a very laid-back lifestyle and are middle class at most.

V on

fuzibuni makes perfect sense! And “M” your comment is based on the theory of evolution which is completely false and shows your ignorance.

Shannon on

“Veganism is the cheapest and most accessible diet out there. Beans and grains (vegan staples) are by far the cheapest foods you can buy in bulk. Also, Beans and grains are cheap and easy to find in every country.”

You might not realize it, but in some neighborhoods people do NOT have access to these foods. Their stores are lined with prepackaged/processed foods and maybe milk, bread and cheese. It is NOT cheap to regularly travel to another geographic area to access these foods, especially if you are geographically isolated or lack your own transportation. Also in some neighborhoods, these foods–if available–are NOT cheap. It is actually cheaper in some areas to buy processed/packaged food or fast food than fresh food. Also a balanced vegan diet consists of more than beans and grains. Although these are the staples of the vegan diet there is more to it. Therefore, not everyone can access the veganism lifestyle. Perhaps that’s where the “elitist” comment stemmed from.

I really wish people would live and let live. I never understood why stranger think I would care what they eat. I don’t.

Shannon on

I love Emily, she seems like one of the few famous actresses that is happy with herself as she is and doesn’t need to try to be stick thin. I commend her for her vegan lifestyle, it must take some serious willpower. I’m excited to see pictures of her baby and she will definitely have beautiful blue eyes because Emily and David both do.

Can’t wait for season 7 of Bones, Booth and Bones together- yeah!

Jacqui on

Amen fuzibuni!

Susan on

M, canine teeth are an ancestral trait: they were present in the earliest primates. So yes, they did develop due to evolution, but not in the way you’re claiming. The Neanderthal skull you linked to most certainly has canine teeth.

V, evolution is a theory in the same way gravity is. Completely false? 150 years of data accumulation and testing beg to differ.

Alicia on

Marky said:
“What fuzibuni probably meant was that vegans tend to be snobby and sel-righteous about their choice of diet, constantly trying to make meat eaters feel as if they are savages and uncaring about animals.”

~~Marky, you & fuzibuni are both wrong. I’ve been vegetarian for nearly 24 years, & vegan for the last 15; I have many friends who are vegan as well. None of us are snobby or self-righteous, & we don’t try to make meat eaters feel as if they are savages or uncaring about animals. However, I find it very difficult to believe someone who eats animals yet says that they care about them. The 2 things are mutually exclusive. That said, I never say anything to friends who are not vegan; I keep my mouth shut, unless they decide to start a conversation about it, in which case I am happy to have a rational, adult discussion. I do NOT stand for teasing of any kind; people get one warning from me about that, & after that, I cut off communication with them. Teasing is a form of bullying, & I just won’t stand for it.

“That’s the elitist attitude I see (and hear), as well as the “you have to keep the menu at the family holiday meal vegan or I won’t come because it makes me just SICK to see that disgusting meat on the table, do you know how it was raised!?” A tad over the top for many of us.”

~~What if you were against the killing & eating of children, but it was the norm in most households? Would you want to go to your family’s Thanksgiving day feast only to see the burnt body of a naked 3 year old on a platter on the table? I doubt it. It’s the same for vegans; that turkey was someone’s baby, & didn’t deserve the life of torture it had, followed by murder at an age much younger than the age it would have died at naturally. We don’t want to see that – it’s horrible. Again, that said, my family knows that I have Thanksgiving at my house to avoid all that, & they are all more than welcome to come over & join in our cruelty-free feast. What usually happens is that they come over later to snack on leftovers & have dessert. That’s fine with me.

“Like I said, you eat what you want and I’ll eat what I want and why should that bother anyone? I’m tired of hearing how you are taking the high road because you don’t eat meat.”

~~Why should you (& I don’t mean you personally, I mean you in general) eating what you want bother me? Well, since you asked… because you are killing (indirectly) a sentient being, then eating its corpse. Do what you want as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else – but when you eat an animal, it IS hurting someone else. It’s hurting that animal, which, from the moment of conception, has lived nothing but a life of torture, only to have its throat slit while still fully conscious. THAT’S why it bothers me. That said, I still don’t say anything unless someone else starts the conversation first – which is why I had no trouble saying something here, because the conversation was already started. As for taking the high road – well, I don’t really consider it that. People tell me all the time that they admire me for being vegan. I hate that!! Don’t admire me for doing the right thing – just do it yourself!! If doing the right thing is taking the high road, then fine, I AM taking the high road. If you feel guilty because you’re not, then that’s your problem, not mine.

Having gotten all that out, LOL, I applaud Emily for sticking to her beliefs & being a real vegan. I lost all respect for Natalie Portman when she started eating animal products again – not because she didn’t have every right to, but because she called herself a vegan & then betrayed the animals. She gives a bad name to those of us REAL vegans; she makes people misunderstand what veganism really is (it’s way more than just a diet).

Last thing: Marky, I promise I’m not picking on you; it’s just that your post sort of condensed what some of the other posts were saying, so it was easiest to reply to you. My comments apply to everyone, not just you.

-Alicia

Carolyn on

A ‘friend’s’ mom – some friend! I too was critized regularly when I was young by some older cousins and believe me that stuck with me my entire life – to hear comments like this over and over affects every child – I am now 52 and have to work every single day to eat right and work out. I say people who say horrible things like that to an innocent child are not ‘friends’ – that is very cruel and sadly her mom should have set her friend’s mom straight!

marina on

I always understood that the neadderthak that M is talking about are NOT the same specie of hominidae that a eructus (or something like that) that we have a closer link. Besides, I always understood that the only relation we have with a orangutans and other animals, is that we share a relative far far away, but from that point we took different path. Plus I rememer reading that early humans form did eat meat, but mostly scavenger it. That is what I was teach. I may be wrong I study history, not anthropology.

And most important why are we talking about this? No one should have to defend their way of life, and one has the right to attack other people because of their eating choices!

I’m a meat eater, and I love it. And I have friends and familly that dislike eating meat/diary for various reasons, and we all respect it each other and we manage to have dinner together and have fun at the same time. It’s call tolerance and respect, and work BOTH way.

Amanda on

How could anyone think there was anything wrong with Emily?? She is a beautiful, intelligent woman. And I agree with the previous poster’s comments about the baby having the Deschanel eyes. They are beautiful!!!!

Sarah K. on

I agree with Emily here. I’m a vegetarian and have never told anyone that eating meat is wrong or savage or immoral. But, I am constantly asked why I would want to be a vegetarian, if I know how good steak tastes, if I get any protein, etc.

Honestly, it seems (note: I said seems) like people are uncomfortable with it because the mere fact that I’m vegetarian makes them think that I believe that what they’re doing is immoral and then they feel like they need to defend themselves.

I usually never even bring up the fact that I’m vegetarian unless I have to for that very reason. I’m forced to defend my decision and at the same time not offend anyone. I usually end up saying that I was raised a vegetarian because that doesn’t invoke any sort of moral dilemma.

Also, being vegan/vegetarian doesn’t have to be a high-class, elitist thing. I understand the constraints that some families are under, but for most middle-class families in the U.S. it is possible.

Anyways, I wish I had the willpower Emily has to be vegan! I tried and failed because of dairy. Good for her for sticking to her beliefs!

Stella Bella on

I don’t understand what some of you are arguing. Just because there are people in the world that have access to nothing but junk, that I should have to eat junk too? WTH???

fuzibuni on

To clarify my earlier point about veganism being elitist…

It would be very difficult for someone in a non-westernized country to maintain a strictly vegan diet. People in other parts of the world often rely on simple food basics to survive. They don’t have access to the vast variety of products and fresh produce that we take for granted in the west. When meat is available, it is considered a gift because it is high in much need calories and nutrients.

The abundance of modern life is what makes it possible to even start thinking of ideas like Veganism. Most of us have comparatively comfortable lives and homes with amenities like refrigerators. We have access to big grocery stores, and can buy vitamin supplements to support a vegan diet. We can take the time to think about where our food comes from, and make choices about what we want to eat. This is a not a luxury afforded to most people historically.

One of the reasons human beings flourished is because we can eat almost anything we find. Researchers believe humans have bigger brains than most other animals due to our omnivorous diet. By judging the consumption of animal products to be wrong, vegans are condemning their own basic human nature. It’s not much different than someone who denies their sexuality, or pretends they don’t fart.

There is documentation that humans have been eating meat for at least the past 500 million years. Hunter-gatherers could never have lived through harsh winters, or trekked long distances without eating animals and wearing their skins. In certain environments, especially in arctic or desert climates, meat was the only food source available. Without it, human civilization as we know it would have ceased to exist.

While many Vegans place judgement on eating meat, the reason they have the privilege to be vegan in the first place is because their ancestors were meat eaters. If the conveniences of modern life were suddenly stripped away, vegans would have to eat whatever they had access to, or starve.

Tia on

Reminds me of when I was 17, at 158cms + 92 lbs, and my friend’s mom told me I was skinny but had ‘wide hips’. Now. 20 years later I’m 121 lbs and still haven’t forgotten what she said. It doesn’t affect my self esteem now, I just wish I hadn’t spent so many years thinking I wasn’t attractive and that my hips were too big! Adults really need to be careful about the things they say to impressionable teenagers..

Tia on

Forgot to mention – the same mom then ended up in a psych ward for a few years about 7 years ago .. put in there by her own family. Just goes to show huh.

fuzibuni on

Stella Bella…
Of course you shouldn’t eat junk just because others are. We are not saying you should eat a big mac instead of a salad.

The point I was making is that many vegans believe that their diet is ethically superior and healthier than that of others who consume animal products. I don’t believe this to be the case, and neither does the research.

Adri on

Congratulations Alicia! You have successfully presented yourself as EXACTLY the type of elitist, asinine vegan that gives the less offensive vegans such a rotten name. Good job!

zappo on

Love Emily, and I cannot believe a family “friend” told her that, but EMily has the last laugh now, doesn’t she? Good for her for sticking to what she believes. I am not vegan or vegetarian, and while I respect the poster who posted about meat eaters not loving animals interesting, I respectfully disagree. I actually eat very little meat and try to get organic free range when I can.Most days I actually consume a vegetarian or vegan diet.But when I want to eat meat, I eat it.

It really does matter to me the life the animal led before it was killed.I truly love animals. I believe all farm animals should be treated with respect and dignity, and a fast death. I don’t believe all animals were created equally. I believe we are at the top. We wouldn’t have developed such intelligence if we weren’t meant to beat out other species Likewise, it’s the human intelligence that gives rise to moral dilemmas such as vegetarianism, whereas a cat gladly just eats meat no quandries.

I TOTALLY respect the poster’s feelings about equating meat to a burned child’s body and will not say she is wrong, because her decision is right for herself it’s all that matters. I can see the anaolgy completely and how it makes that poster uncomfortable. We should want to make dietary options for family members on diets different than our own. Isn’t that part of loving your family? I can’t eat wheat, so I appreciate it when someone goes out of their way to accomodate my diet. I would never make fun of a vegetarian or vegan, like I would hope people would respect my omnivorous eating.

Again, these are just MY beliefs; to each their own. I wish we could all respect each other and agree to disagree but still get along in life.

Marky on

Alicia, it is hard to read your post without the words, “elitist”, “snob”, “self-righteous”, all ringing in my ears until I drop–down in my chair and having a piece of chicken. Cut me some slack! You are rebutting my comment that many vegans demand a vegan meal at their relatives’ homes because, “I can’t BEAR the sight of that hideous corpse on the table!” by comparing a turkey to the burnt body of a 3 1/2 yr. old child on the table?! I rest my case…..

The truth is, I would never feel the need to tell you (if you were a friend or family member) that I thought it was ridiculous for you to eat vegan, and I wouldn’t ask you to eat meat, but the thought that you would refuse to be my friend because of my eating meat, that you would equate someone joking about what you eat or what they eat with bullying, the fact that you refuse to go to your family’s Thanksgiving dinner and eat the vegetables , fruit, and bread they have as well as whatever they may have tried to furnish to accommodate you food desires, wow! “If you want to see me, you will eat what I eat!” And you don’t think that’s snobby, elitist, and rude? Amazing…..

Here’s the thing that is just overwhelming to me; you see no problem in saying directly to me that my diest is so horrifying, that I may as well eat children of who? my friends, my children–whose? But if I say I don’t want to eat the same way you do, you won’t come to my home, even if I’m your sister or mom?

There other thing is, I actually lived in a rural setting when growing up, my husband farmed for years, and I have never treated an animal badly as it was being raised, nor did we ever slaughter an animal in an inhumane way. We didn’t waste, and we killed what we needed for food. If you think it would have been easy to be vegan where I grew up, you are sadly mistaken. I never saw a black bean until I was 28, and I didn’t have many of the foods you depend on to complete your diet even available to me. I do not feel guilty for eating meat, and I think there needs to be room for people to exhibit tolerance. You have basically said I am a barbarian (without using that word), and insulted me in every direction, but you have zero tolerance for “bullying”? Makes me want to call BS on the vegans, alright.

ecl on

I think meat in moderation is okay, but Americans eat way too much of it. I also agree that it is okay to eat meat if it is humanely raised and slaughtered. How is that different than a lion taking down a zebra? The problem is with factory farming. Unfortunately, the price of free range, ethically raised meat is way too high for most people and the other meat is subsidized by the government. For the middle class, I say buy the expensive meat and the cost will force you to eat less of it, the result being that you don’t overeat meat.

Jillian on

Marky, while I didn’t agree with your previous posts, I agree with you on the last one! Alicia, yikes! Don’t act like all vegans or vegetarians are like you because they are thankfully not. Thanksgiving is a day to be thankful. I have two vegetarians and a vegan in my extended family. They have NO problem going to dinner at someones house who will have ham, turkey beef, etc. We are sure to have plenty for them. They are there for the love for the people. They don’t cook, prepare or cut the meat but would never act as you. I am in shock at the attitude you exibitited.

adri on

Alicia, do you realize what a complete idiot you are? You start off saying how you are not snobby, self-righteous and how you don’t make meat eaters feel like savages or uncaring…but in the very next sentences that follow you do just what you just said YOU DON’T DO! Unbelievable. And NO, you are so wrong…..saying you care about animals and then eating meat is NOT mutually exclusive. There are many people who do care about animals and make sure they only eat meat and dairy products that come from humane farms. Alicia, you are the poster child for snobby, self-righteous vegans.

JH on

@”V” on July 9th, 2011, — evolution is not false. Time and time again fossils are found, examined, dated and fit perfectly into the timeline of evolution. You have probably have only a colloquial understanding of the term “theory” and are confused when it is used in a scientific context. I suggest you read anything written by Stephen Jay Gould or Why Evolution Is True by Jerry Coyne.

@M on July 9th, 2011 — You are incorrect in your assertion that “Neanderthals, part of the Homininae subfamily (just like humans) are our immediate ancestors.” DNA evidence refutes this notion, here’s an article: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/05/0514_030514_neandertalDNA.html. Neanderthals lived between 200,000 to 30,000 years ago in areas of Europe. They were a “cousin” of the anatomically modern humans who migrated out Africa and into the areas of Europe occupied by Neanderthals. Anatomically modern humans were better adapted to life in Europe, and ultimately contributed to the extinction of this sub-species.

As for the Emily Deschanel, she does not have fat thighs so much as a very large ass and saddle bags. She’s completely pear shaped. Which is great so long as she wears a-line skirts and the Bones producers keep her in that long blue lab coat. And yes, she is flat chested.

I’m skeptical when I meet vegans — so many of them are really using veganism as a smoke screen for eating disorders. And yes, veganism is elitist. It takes time and money to adhere to a labour intensive, obscure dietary regime. Most low income people don’t have the time or resources to be vegans.

Shannon on

“I don’t understand what some of you are arguing. Just because there are people in the world that have access to nothing but junk, that I should have to eat junk too? WTH???”

Your logic is lacking. No, the argument is that some people don’t have access to the vegan lifestyle therefore it is not “the cheapest and most accessible diet out there” as someone posted. That fact has nothing to do with you. No one is telling you what to eat. At least I’m not.

VeganTX on

Ecl-I completely agree. I am a vegan and my husband is a meat eater. We make it a point to buy locally-grown and slaughtered animals where we can talk to the farmer and visit the farm to see that the animals are raised well and slaughtered humanely. That being said, I don’t cook meat for my husband. If he wants it, he cooks it. But he is very accommodating with my vegan diet and it helps to balance the occasional meat that he does eat.

For the vegan/veggie snob argument. I live in Austin, TX which has a thriving vegan and vegetarian population. I have seen both the laid back ones and the super high maintenance ones as well. I also live in TX, so I have gone to work functions that were BBQs and other parties that were just like giant meat worshipping gatherings with LBS of meat everywhere. I was unable to eat anything there.

I have always looked at it as ‘This is my life choice. I will not demand that other people accommodate me as I am a self sufficient person and can figure a way around inconveniencing my friends and family.’ I normally only ask to know what the food situation is going to be like when I go somewhere. If nothing is really available to me, I will eat before I go and bring a few snacks or something to munch on. When people come to my place for a party or dinner they don’t demand I make chicken or steak. They eat what I provide (which is normally delicious vegan fare) and they are gracious about it. I am not a fan of looking at bloody meat or anything like that, but I believe everyone has the right to eat what he/she thinks is best for them.

sarah on

I don’t know how eating meat can be compared to eating a burnt 3 year old, {I might eat veal though ;) } but what I do know is IF vegans and meat eaters were trapped on an island with no ‘beans and rice’ lol and you had been starving for a week and half I know you would end up eating meat {fish or anything you could catch} Your body would force you, its called survival! you are telling me its wrong to go against nature? Being a vegan is really a luxury that many dont have, you live in the north america or europe you dont live in the the middle of no where, AND I mean literally no where. There are still people who have never ridden in cars there are probably tribes that dont even know what a car is, so maybe you should stop and think about how lucky you really are. People are so selfish and self centered it is sickening.

Marky on

Shannon, no one is saying you are telling people what to eat, and I have to be honest that it may not have been as clear as I intended that I couldn’t care less about how you eat. You can be vegan, vegetarian, or meat-eater–you can live on milk and potatoes and nothing else for all I care. I would NEVER tell someone how they should eat, unless, as a nurse, I am giving directions to a patient on diet, and no; from that standpoint, vegan isn’t always better.

Alicia, you and anyone else who is vegan, are always welcome in my home and I will make an attempt to accommodate you as much as possible, but I wouldn’t expect the Dalai Lama to come to my home and plan the menu there, unless he was also planning to buy it, prepare it, and clean up afterwards. I can’t imagine being invited to your home, and telling you I was offended by your meal plan or that I would refuse to celebrate a holiday with my family because they didn’t all eat the same way I did. I have friends from other parts of the world, whose diets are very different from mine and I wouldn’t do that to them. Even if they serve insects, I eat it. It is as if manners and common courtesy have simply disappeared in the face of “I want it, and I demand to have my way, period! I’m right and you are not only wrong, you are disgusting, too!”

If I was going to be confronted with nothing but foods I was downright allergic to, I would bring my food with me and unceremoniously and without comment, eat it while enjoying the company of my family. I would not, however, “stay home and enjoy my…food” and if my family wants to see me they can take the “high road” and do what’s right–eat like I do. Really?? Is any one going to tell me that is a reasonable, kind way to approach Thanksgiving dinner? And you are going to refer to our traditional dinner as “cruel” and centered around “someone’s baby”? Have you actually ever been around turkeys in a farmyard or in the wild? When that “baby” can eat on its own, it is out of the turkey’s mind, really. If you brought the mama turkey in and showed it the “dead carcass” of its “baby”, it wouldn’t care at all. Your family, however, misses you every holiday because you care more about what you “think” that turkey feels than you do how you KNOW your family feels. But you just take that high road and tell me again how you don’t feel self-righteous all the while.

Marky on

VeganTX, you sound like someone who would be great to know; reasonable and having an understanding of “choice”. Being from Austin might have influenced you–most people there have somewhat of a live and let live attitude and an understanding that not all are alike :). Thanks for your input!

Nicole on

Actually, I’d like to really understand the Vegan thing. I get the whole vegetarian thing, where they just don’t eat meat, and some eat fish (or am I wrong in that?) but they do eat animal products like milk, cheese, etc. I can understand that…but the vegan thing? what do you eat? I’m truly coming from a place of curiosity, not condemning at all.

My daughter expressed a disgust for meat a few weeks ago and stated that she thought about being a vegan (she’s 10) the problem is I wouldn’t know the first thing to cook for her other than vegetables and fruits. Which I’m sure is good, but I’m not sure it’d be very filling? and I don’t want her just consuming pasta and rice. She is a very picky eater on top of that, so I’m not sure she’d go with the whole Tofu thing….my point and question being..what does one eat when Vegan?

what are no nos..and if you are pregnant, what do you eat? I know when I was pregnant with my 2nd child I was told per my doctor to ensure I drink and consume plenty of dairy (I and the baby were underweight) which I had no problem with, but had I been Vegan? obviously not okay. Just curious is all. Thanks!

MiB on

The funny thing is, most vegans I know are low or middle income, and it has never been a problem for them since a vegan fare is actually usually cheaper than meat (at least where I live), particularly when bought in bulk. They, like milions of people around the world, many of them poor, live on a staple diet of rice (or some other grains) and beans (in some form) with seasonal vegetables, nuts if and when they can afford it. I guess it is elitist since it does require some knowledge, either inherited or acquired, but it is, essentially cheaper than meat. In fact, meat is a luxury many poor around the world can’t afford other than a couple of times a year if they are lucky.

What worries most is lack of calcium, iron and vitamin B-12 in the diet. Calcium is found in dark green leafy vegetables, tofu made with calcium sulfate, and calcium-fortified products like soy milk, orange juice and cereals. Iron is found in as delicious sources as dried herbs, chocolate, pumpkin, squash, sunflower and sesame seeds, sundried tomatoes, dried apricots, beans and even whole wheat bread (and therefore not that difficult to get by). The only thing vegans do tend to supplement as there is no known vegan sources, is vitamin B-12. Vitamin B-12 is one of our most complex and least known vitamins, we know that it is vital for survival, but aside from animal products, we don’t really know where to find it, yet there are vegans who don’t supplement and still don’t suffer from any vitamin B-12 deficiency, and there are vegetarians, or even meat eaters who are vitamin B-12 deficient. Most vegans do supplement vitamin B-12.

It is true however that our teeth are so that we can eat a varied diet, including meat, but can you really call eating meat with almost every meal to eat a varied diet?

As for a tendency to preachiness, well, I think there are two main reasons. One reason is that many vegans (and vegetarians) have made a conscious choice to eat vegan/vegetarian and therefore are passionate about it. The other reason (and I think this is the biggest reason) is that vegetarians and vegans often have to defend themselves and their choice to others who question them, and that they eventually become very defesive about it. I have even seen people sneak meat into vegetarian food and then triumphantly tell the vegetarian/vegan that they have just eaten meat, and see, that wasn’t too bad, was it? (It happened to a friend of mine not long ago.)

MiB on

@Nicole. I suggest you talk to your daughter about it, tell her your concerns about not being able to give her all that her body needs and that you need to learn more about a vegan/vegetarian diet before you can let her take the step to become a vegan. Then make a common project out of it, do internet reasearch together, by a vegetarian cook book (many have chapters on proper nutrition) or borrow one at the library. Then cook some of the meals suggested together. Maybe she’ll become a vegan or vegetarian after that, maybe she’ll decide not to, but in any case, you are bound to have had a both bonding and educational experience together if you do a project out of it.

I actually had a vegetarian period at about the same age because I couldn’t stand to eat animals, and my mom went along with it for the six or so months it lasted, off course, this was not a huge effort since we were already eating meat only about once a week and fish about once a week. The funny thing is, that the experience must have stuck with her as she herself is now a vegetarian, though she still eats fish. There are two reasons she eats fish, the first is that she likes fish, the second is that, even though she moves in circles where vegetarianism is more accepted and widespread than elsewhere, she is from a generation where there are not many vegetarians, so eating fish still makes life easier when she is invited for dinner, eats out or invites people over (not to mention that her husband isn’t a vegetarian).

Eudin on

Sorry Emily, but having a baby is not vegan – it is unkind, speciesist, not eco-friendly and it may grow up adopting a different diet than you because it will have the freedom to commit those crimes.

Jackie on

Nicole, technically vegetarians do not eat any animal flesh, including fish. Vegans are strict vegetarians who don’t eat any animal flesh, eggs, or dairy.

If you want to learn more about vegetarianism, I strongly suggest educating yourself. Chooseveg.com is a great place to start. Click on the “for the animals” tab and watch the 11:50 minute video. It can be tough to watch, but it is important to be informed about where your food comes from, so you can then decide what industries you want to support when you go to the grocery store.

To get more information about vegetarian health, you should check out jacknorrisrd.com and theveganrd.com. RD = registered dietician, which is who you want to get your nutrition information from! If you have any other questions, please please please feel free to ask me. I am well read on this topic, and, more importantly, I am very passionate about it. Thank you for your curiosity!

Cordelia on

Congratulations Emily!

There are vegan sources of all the nutrients found in dairy and meat, the baby will be gloriously healthy. The only time there are health issues are when people don’t educate themselves properly, and I know Emily is responsible enough to make sure she is eating the right things.

I think it is silly that people consider her diet elitist. It is true that their aren’t really vegetarians in other less developed countries, but their aren’t factory farms either. I spent eight weeks in Uganda and the people their mostly ate local vegatables and fruits, beans, rice, and this cornmeal stuff called posha. Meat was a luxury item that was available when an animal that they had raised on grass was ready for slaughter. I’m a vegan, but I know that if I was raised in Uganda regardless of my financial standing (There is an upper-class there, the problem is there is no middle class) I would not be. There is nothing there to be disgusted about, there is no organized system of meat in existence that generates cruelty. I remained vegan there, but more out of spiritual and health reasons (My body has never been able to tolerate meat well anyways, and many meat eating tourists become vegetarian in Uganda anyways out of fear of diseases, there is no regulation). I had no moral objections.

However, if you live in a country that has the factory farms, chances are that you can afford bags of dried rice and beans and some vegetables and fruits, and that this will be cheaper than eating meat regularly. I am a college student very much in debt, and I am a vegan.

I’m pretty much the only one in my circle of friends too. Most of them agree with me that it is wrong to treat animals the way the majority of them are treated, but it’s just not something they care enough to worry about right now. When they are older and have money they may switch to organic meat. I respect that. everyone has their own issues that they are passionate about. Meat just particularly gets to me because I know I can’t prevent the cruelty in the world, but I can at very least not contribute to it.

I know that meat eaters aren’t intentionally trying to cause cruelty, most people are just overwhelmed by all the issues in the world that they don’t really think about it, they just do what they were raised to do without question. I believe that it does cause cruelty, but I love my friends even more than I love animals so I respect their decisions and try my best to understand them.

CMAD on

OH MY FREAKING GOD PEOPLE! Chill out like seriously no matter what yall post on her she is not gonna see it and no one will care after you wrote it. Sheesh I am 14 years old and ya argue about stupid things worse than the teenage kids my age. Besides that… I am HUGE fan! Bones is my all-time favorite show! Her and Celine Dion are my idols! So them being my idols I am not gonna judge her because of her lifestyle choice. Thank You and Good Night.

Marva on

I’ve been a vegan for about two years now and as a college student I have a low income but despite that I am able to afford organic vegetables (I get a box delivered from an organic farm twice a month). Living together with my sometimes-meat-eating boyfriend, we spend 130€ (~188 USD) per month on organic food and household items for us both.

As to what a vegan eats: Pasta, rice, grains like millet/quinoa/couscous/bulgur/polenta, potatoes combined with raw/cooked vegetables, beans and herbs. Additionally, I use soy cream for cooking. Soy/rice/oat milk come in various flavours (I only use normal soy milk and vanilla soy milk for dishes like rice pudding, pancakes and other sweet/baking goods). As an egg replacement for baking recipes I use soy flour.

Two kinds of tofu (for example basil tofu and almond-nut tofu) and a package of seitan (wheat gluten) are always kept in the fridge, I eat it about two times a week. Sometimes, if I feel like spending a bit more, I buy vegan cheese or tempeh (~6 USD each).

In winter, I eat porridge (oatmeal) with apples for breakfast, otherwise cereal consisting of a banana, a handful of almonds and oats each and soy yoghurt.

Usually not very healthy food like pizza or fries is also very easy to “veganise” and make healthier at home. There are countless ways to experiment and have fun in the kitchen, be it as a vegan or not.

I live in a big city in Germany and it’s so easy being a vegan here, there are lots of farmer’s markets and organic grocery stores everywhere. We even have a great vegan ice cream parlour!

When I told my mother about my plans to become a vegan – I was 20 and in the process of moving in with my boyfriend – she was less than thrilled and feared malnourishment. I had been a vegetarian for four years prior; my family eats meat very seldom and if, then only organic meat, but my mother thought it was too strict. So I went to the doctor to get my blood tested and when everything was perfectly fine with me, she accepted it – well, not that she could’ve done anything about it. A few months ago I donated blood and the results were as good as ever; it really reconfirmed me that my choice is right for me. I’m literally never sick, not even close to underweight (but also not to overweight) and feel healthy.

Sometimes people ask me if I’m alright because I’m very pale. But I have been pale my whole life, except some summers as a child when I was outside all the time – and I use sunscreen whenever I go outside; I’d rather be pale than have skin cancer later. I find paleness more attractive anyway, my “perfect man” (even though my current one is pretty great) has red, curly hair (I love curls, never understood people straightening their hair because mine looks straightened naturally and I always hated it), freckles and pale skin. So, it works for me.

A in TX on

You can’t please everyone all the time. Everyone has a diferent opinion and a different version of what “the good life” is. To each their own. Why such hostility?

I made the choice to be a vegetarian and don’t ask that people acomodate me and my choice. Living in Texas, most functions do have BBQ and very little choice of non-meat fare. I either eat before I go or make do with what I can until I leave. I don’t alienate people because of a choice I made.

No matter what you eat or where you live, there are always the high and mighty around who think they are better. It’s not the lifestyle they choose, it’s the type of person they are. What you choose to eat has nothing to do with how you portray yourself.

It makes me laugh that this whole thing went from a magazine article about loving yourself for who you are to Neanderthals and eating babies. Just the thought of someone actally comparing a burnt baby {why would you even think of that to begin with} to a turkey is…well I have no words for it.

Everyone is different and once everyone comes to terms with it, the world will be better for it. To prove my point about how different people are, please read the following:

I am a vegetarian and my 8 year old son is not so I still have to cook meat for him. In fact my entire family is a hoard of meat loving people. So..I am vegetarian, I live in Texas, my family eats meat, and…are you ready for it…I HUNT!

Have fun with that last statement everyone!!! :)

Debbie on

Flat-Chested at 12 years old???? Am I missing something??? I’m going to guess the friends mom had to be at least in her 30′s if not older since the girls were 12…. How stupid, thoughtless and ignorant can a adult be in front of kids? Well they say the best revenge is success…and Emily has that in spades….Good for her…As for her diet, I say to each his own, live and let live, what ever floats your boat as long as you don’t sink mine..

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