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Susan Sarandon 'Never Tried to Force' Politics on Three Children

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There’s a running joke around the dinner table each Thanksgiving at the home shared by actors Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins — how many minutes into the meal before politics are discussed!

What’s more, the couple’s two sons Miles Guthrie, 17, and Jack Henry, 20, and Susan’s daughter Eva Amurri, 24, are usually manning the clock, Susan says in the January issue of Psychologies.

“Well, there are other people there, so sometimes it’s pretty quick! But we talk about lots of stuff. My kids keep me up to speed on music and trends — it’s one of the few good things they can do for you, in exchange for all the worry they put you through.”

As for whether or not the boys are showing signs of being as politically active as their parents, Susan says that the jury is out. “I’ve never tried to force it on them,” she explains, but the election of President Barack Obama “got them excited.” Although the family of five attended the Democratic National Convention and the eventual inauguration, Susan insists “our dinner table conversations are rarely political.”

They’re also rarely about show business, and Susan reveals that Jack, Miles and Eva “still haven’t watched” most of her films. She elaborates,

“Not because of embarrassment but just not wanting to see their mum as somebody different — that’s hard for them.”

Of course there are countless other ways to embarrass your children, and it’s something Susan says she does “constantly.” The 63-year-old actress says she’s “given up being defensive about it,” noting, “if you’re breathing, you’re an embarrassment.”

To that end, Susan says she began opting out of filming nude scenes once the kids began to ask tough questions.

“They’ll point out something I did earlier and ask, ‘Did it never occur to you that you might have a child?’” she recalls. “I say, ‘No, it didn’t, really.’ But I accept them; they have to learn to accept me.”

Still, confusion has — at times — persisted, particularly when the kids were younger.

“If I kissed someone in a film, my son used to ask, ‘Did you have sex in that movie?’ and I’d say, ‘No, we just kissed,’ yet he considered it sexual. But that is the dance, because sexuality exists around children. From the time they’re walking, they’re completely sexual. I remember having to explain to both my sons that we couldn’t get married.”

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I can’t believe that Susan is 63!!!! She looks great.

- Michelle on

Well this thread will soon get offensive. So I’ll just say that I freakin’ love Susan Sarandon. She seems really cool but I must say that if I was her teenage son Bull Durham would embarrass me just a tidbit too. But I hope the boys can get over it.

- Jessica on

Why will the board get offensive? Why bring it up and start the issue? :/

- Lara on

Wow, she must’ve had her youngest son when she was in her mid-forties. o.O

- Jamie on

I don’t think her daughter can ask the question about nakedness anymore as she is in Californication at the moment.
They sounds like a nice family and they have been together for a long time!

- Anna on

I ♥ Susan Sarandon. She gets more and more beautiful with age. I think Eva looks just like her. The fact that the whole family loves and supports Obama makes me love her even more. :)

- I♥CBB on

I love Susan, but what is with the children are sexual comment? Ughh, that turned me cold. Paedophiles do not need anymore encouragement!

- Sadie on

I don’t agree with Susan’s politics, and I think it’s a bit creepy to say that children are sexual from the time they learn how to walk…

- Annalee on

Sexual doesn’t mean sexually available,it means that children have an awarness of themselves as sexual beings. I don’t know why I thought that was commong knowledge. Of course, if your children were never allowed to look at their nude bodies or ask questions about different sexual organs and their functions then it’s not surprising that some moms don’t know children are sexual. And pedophiles do not need encouragement,they carry out their horrible deviant sexual acts regardless of what Susan Sarandon says or thinks about children.Before she made this very obvious and harmless remark pedophiles existed and they would still exist tomorrow regardless of what Susan Sarandon says.

- eva on

i really like susan sarandon and tim robbins, i think they are really setting a good example for their kids of how to care about politics and the rest of the world and believe in equality without actually forcing politics on them.

- JM on

What she said is true though. I’ve always been a fan of hers!

- Jessicad on

Eva, I’m well aware of what sexual means and also that paedophiles are paedophiles with or without the comments of Susan Sarandon. However, I still don’t like that comment. Children shouldn’t be described as ‘completely sexual from the time of walking’, it’s just wrong. The term sexual ‘implies or symbolizes erotic desires’ (and I quote that from a dictionary, it’s not just how I feel personally).

- Sadie on

“From the time they’re walking, they’re completely sexual. I remember having to explain to both my sons that we couldn’t get married.”

^^^I don’t see that as being sexual. I’d say little boys love and adore their mothers and don’t understand that there are different kinds of love. Perhaps Susan is a fan of Freudian psychology. lol

- Chris on

Sadie I agree with you. I think the comment is gross, but she is talking to a psychology magazine. Children are not completely sexual from the time they are walking, they have no concept about it at all. Aren’t babies and children considered “blank slates”? I mean that as a good thing, as parents you are the teachers. I don’t think normal child behavior automatically includes being “completely sexual”

- Sandra on

from websters:
Main Entry: sex·u·al
Pronunciation: \ˈsek-sh(ə-)wəl, ˈsek-shəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Late Latin sexualis, from Latin sexus sex
Date: 1651

1 : of, relating to, or associated with sex or the sexes
2 : having or involving sex

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I have to agree with Susan. If you take the word “sexual” to it’s basic origins (ie, remove your own personal feelings about it), then of course children are ‘sexual’ from the moment they are born. They are ‘boys’ and ‘girls.’ they are born from your own body. They are human and therefore ‘sexual.’

While it may sit wrong with many to think that way, it’s the truth.

- fuzibuni on

Neurobiologists and evolutionary scientists shed the “blank slate” idea a while ago.So which word should she use instead of “sexual” so that people don’t feel so uncomfortable and scared of children and sex in the same sentence? I guess we shouldn’t talk about it at all…too many sexual images of erotic desire.

I’m really sorry but I just can’t see what the hung up is.I have a 10 year old girl and I’ve always acknowledged a natural interest in sex and sexuality in children,particularly in my own child.A very young child can and sometimes have interest in sexual experimentation and exploration without being pushed into it.Does that make anyone feel like I drop my child on street corners every night and show her porn all day?

- eva on

Eva, you are taking peoples’ opposing views way out of context. No one mentioned porn and street corners. I’m simply saying I don’t think all children express sexual instincts at an early age. All children are different, Susan Sarandon’s kids probably live and grew up in a more open household. People are allowed to have opinions on these topics. No one is right or wrong.

- Sandra on

Sorry, but I find it very hard to believe that Susan and Tim don’t force politics on their children.

- Ply on

uh, come on now, people. even little babies will touch themselves because it feels good, how is that not sexual? a lot of kids, i’m going to be bold and say most, experiment with other kids in some type of sexual manner before the age of ten, how is that not sexual? it’s nothing to be ashamed of either. and pedophiles don’t prey on children because of the sex. they prey on them because they can, because it’s easy, because it’s a game of control and that’s what excites them. so calm yourselves.

- sgtmian on

I agree, Ply. Especially since they use their celebrity status to promote their political agenda every chance they get. “Not forcing” their kids politically probably means that they chose the ‘right’ path and didn’t need to be forced.

- celebsarah on

Annalee, Sadie and Sandra, I totally agree! And, Eva, you are really stretching the truth by saying people are “scared” of mentioning “children” and “sex” in the same sentence. Just because someone has a different way of stating things, or is opposed to the way someone else states things, doesn’t mean we are all snared on a “hung up.” You can have a healthy respect and knowledge of something without yammering about it in regards to your child just to justify doing a nude scene. And Susan is completely contradicting herself with her own words. First she states that it’s “Not because of embarrassment but just not wanting to see their mum as somebody different — that’s hard for them.” Then she completely contradicts herself by sharing that she began opting out of filming nude scenes once the kids began to ask tough questions. “They’ll point out something I did earlier and ask, ‘Did it never occur to you that you might have a child?’” she recalls. “I say, ‘No, it didn’t, really.’ But I accept them; they have to learn to accept me.” And I don’t understand why she told the boys they “couldn’t” get married. Are they both, or is one of them, legally married to someone else or do they just choose not to get married? Being married to someone else is definitely a “couldn’t” but choosing not to marry is a “wouldn’t.” I really like Susan as an actor. But, just like in her political ramblings, Susan frequently spouts emotional rhetoric that has little to do with knowing the facts on the subject matter. And her kids are definitely embarrassed by her work, for her statements tell the story.

- FLMom on

uh yeah, totally weird comment about kids being “sexual by the time they’re walking”. if you have to write a paragraph trying to explain what she meant, then she probably should have chosen different words to make her point.

- emma on

oh and FLMom: what she was trying to say is she told her sons that she couldn’t get married to them, her sons. you know, “mommy will you marry me?” thing

- emma on

I completely agree with sgtmian. We are intrinsically sexual beings; were we not humankind would cease to exist as we know it.

- Angela on

Well,since people were already discussing paedophilia and eroticism I assumed that is where people were going with their comments.I for one think bringing child rape into the picture is a lot more than just disagreeing,it’s making unecessary implications and if others can do it,so can I.Also,I did not get the impression that people simply disagreeing with Susan Sarandon,they were actually mortified and astonished for her remarks.If that was not the case then I stand corrected and I’ll drop the subject all together.However,I believe there is a certain element of dislike towards her politics that drive some of the commotion over sex and children.It is a hell of an assumption but I’ve been around for a while and it is not uncommon in CBB.May be it is time for me to leave the blod for good.This place is obviously not meant for people like me.

- eva on

i think people are confusing parents being very politically active with forcing their political opinion on their kids. to those who say they find it hard to believe that they don’t force their political opinion on their kids: how the HELL do you know this? because they are very vocal about their politics? what’s wrong with that. christ, it’s about time someone wasn’t just apathetic and actually questioned things. my parents are very very political people but they never said that i had to agree with their politics, they just wanted me to take an interest in politics in general, question things, try and uncover for myself what i feel is right to believe in.
i really wish you guys would qualify your comments and not just blindly state that OF COURSE they force politics in their kids.

- JM on

Emma, thanks so much for clearing that up for me! That statement threw me off…again, thanks for “talking” with me in such a respectful, helpful manner!

- FLMom on

I wasn’t much of a fan of hers and def. didn’t win me over when I saw her on the set of The lovely bones. She was really diva-ish when filming the movie. Had people hold her umbrella as she walked. Refused to talk to fans or even wave. Even telling security she felt “unsafe” with people standing around watching it be filmed. And don’t get me started on her over the top politics!
But I will say for being 63 (which I didn’t know) she looks pretty damn good. I’m also glad to hear she doesn’t force her politics on her kids. Children shouldn’t have to grow up in that kind of environment of being lead to believe in only one view point.

- JMO on

I definitely consider myself one of the more conservative people on this site in several ways, and I definitely don’t support all of Susan’s politics, but on a purely psychological level, Susan is 100% right. Humans, from the moment they’re born, have innate sexual desires in the sense that they discover how to pleasure themselves physically and develop feelings for other people. It’s been said by many in the field that the first woman a boy fall in love with is his mother, and why the can’t marry her has to be explained to him since he can’t understand what the implications of that mean. This is not to say that young children recognize that they have sexual feelings. What they do recognize is the fact that they have these feelings that pleasure them. So while they don’t realize the implications of their feelings, they definitely recognize their existance.

- Lauren on

Maybe she doesn’t think they force their political opinions on their kids, but her plans to move to Canada if her candidate didn’t win says a lot. If they were my parents and I didn’t agree, I’d keep my mouth shut and go with the flow too.

- celebsarah on

celebsarah- I completely agree with you. How could she not push her beliefs on her kids she pushes them on everyone else?

Now I can understand not pushing as in forcing- my parents never ‘pushed’ their beliefs (conservative) on me but I knew what they believed and grew up believing the same things and still do. But I’m sure Susan’s children are well aware of her beliefs and probably feel as though they must believe the same, since she is such a political person.

The comment about children being sexual is just odd. No other way to describe it.

- Erika on

my 8 y/o son always asked me to marry him too! he hasn’t in a while, but it was so sweet when he did. he was so serious and loving, holding my hand. oooh… baby boys!

- kristin on

“i really wish you guys would qualify your comments and not just blindly state that OF COURSE they force politics in their kids.”

Nobody stated that. I think you need to reread the comments. We were just speculating. You sound a little angry, JM. And I don’t think swearing (“how the HELL do you know this?”) is appropriate in a forum that asks us to be respectful of one another.

- Ply on

FLMom, I think she’s referring to her sons… not her husband.
she’s saying that she had to explain to each of them why they couldn’t marry their mother.

- fuzibuni on

sgtmian and Lauren, I completely agree. It’s lying to ourselves to believe sexual feelings just pop into people’s lives when they turn 15.

In regards to politics I don’t get the implication, is she very involved in politics? I haven’t heard of it (I don’t live in the US).

- Alice on

I love it when liberals get accused of “pushing” their politics on others. Just because a certain industry is filled with mostly left-leaning people doesn’t mean they’re pushing their politics on you. It so happens that entertainment people are in the media, so everyone gets to hear their views whether they want to or not. I don’t hear it being called pushy when Kelsey Grammer, Tom Selleck, Bo Derek, Gerald McRaney or Chuck Norris go on about their points of view. But if they were the majority of Hollywood I’d probably get sick of hearing them spout off – so I do sympathize! Regardless, the real issue here is that Susan looks INCREDIBLE for 63!

- Erin on

i think her comments about children being sexual from the time they are walking are spot on, even if there was perhaps a more clear way of wording it…psychologists have noted infants touching themselves, toddlers comparing anatomy and being aware of other species’ anatomies, and young children expressing their love for each other with kissing, holding hands, etc. many psychologists and sociologists say that it is through social norms that children repress those feelings, oftentimes by splitting into groups based on gender until physiological changes in the body make that impractical. which is why middle school is often the time a child’s social circle widens.

as far as politics-i actually casually know the family (my family and their’s have vacation homes in the same florida neighborhood and we’ve been to pool parties, bbqs, dinner parties, etc.) and they have always seemed respectful of others political opinions, whilst being passionate about their own. ms. sarandon in particular i remember listening and having conversations with people of other political points of view, rather than deafly leading a diatrabe…

- noam on

Noam, I have three infants – a 2 year old boy and 11 month old twin girls. All are walking. I’m sorry, but “sexual” is the last way they should be described as at this age. So what if infants explore their anatomy? They pull their ears and eat their feet, too. Sexuality is not just physical. Children are far too immature emotionally, mentally and socially to be sexual in any way, shape for form and should not be described that way.
And as I said before, I love Susan and admire her greatly. But this comment is disturbing.

- Sadie on

“Children are far too immature emotionally, mentally and socially to be sexual in any way, shape for form and should not be described that way.
And as I said before, I love Susan and admire her greatly. But this comment is disturbing.”

*sigh* It’s sad how so many people in our society have twisted around the meaning of words and concepts so far from what they originally meant. Similar examples would be how the word gay was used in conversation in the past to imply that someone was happy or cheerful, and unfortunately many people (mostly conservatives in my experience) now use it as an insult. Many people also view women’s breasts are sexual objects when that wasn’t their original purpose.

I have a psychology degree so I was required to take courses in sexual behavior in college, and it’s common knowledge in the scientific world that children are sexual from the day they’re born. That’s a fact. And sexual does not automatically = sex. People who believe that are uneducated and uninformed.

As far as the comments about her pushing her politics on her children, I find that laughable because that implies that her kids are stupid and don’t have minds of their own. The only parents I know that have pushed their political beliefs onto their children are Republicans. Both my husband’s parents and my parents (well mostly my father) are strict, die-hard, opinionated conservative Republicans, and some of their views became so offensive that it caused my husband and I to seek out more information about certain issues. As a result, we’re both raging liberals now and proud of it :) .

- Ash on

I think we are confusing “sexual” with “erotic”. I remember having a conversation with my son about why his body is different from mine (he wanted to know why I had breasts and him and Daddy didn’t). For children, itsabout “sex”, as in male or female. Children are often very aware of the differences between the genders and often their bodies can be just as confusing as trying to ride a bike or read a book.

And please remember this is a discussion with a pchology magazine, which I would expect people who are well studied in the field would read and therefore understand what she is saying. It is all about context!

- Catey on

What’s so wrong, really, with teaching your kids about your own political views? I don’t view that as “forcing” your views on your kids. Susan is very liberal (from what I’ve seen and heard) and she feels strongly about some things, so what’s wrong with her teaching her kids about those things? And I’m a conservative Christian and I plan on teaching (“forcing” if you want) my children about my beliefs. I know full well that they might reject them when they get older, and I won’t love them any less for it.

- Anna on

Ash, no need to sigh at me. I really am very liberal myself and am an educated, intelligent person. But seriously – how many people have psychology degrees? How many people know the right context to use the term sexual in when referring to children?
I understand that this is relevant in that it was printed in a psychology magazine, but the power of the net means it has been reproduced here and who knows where else. This is one of the reasons this comment does not sit well with me.
I am a journalist, and a year or so ago did a story on a young author who nearly died of anorexia in her teens. I was horrified to see her quotes about weight loss, including techniques and scale numbers, were then reproduced on a website glorifying anorexia – effectively they were being used by these girls to encourage further weight loss. I would hate to think of paedophiles doing the same thing with these comments. Don’t be naive and think that it doesn’t happen.
Sexual is a term with many connotations – correct or incorrect they exist, which is why people should tread very carefully when using it in a public forum in relation to children. I say this in a professional sense. As a mother, I stand by my own observations of my children, not that of “experts”. My opinion, anyway.

- Sadie on

Well we don’t have censorship in this country (thank goodness) so people are entitled to say what they want. I don’t see the point in nit picking (sp?) every little thing that someone says, especially when they probably didn’t mean any harm by it. Pedaphiles and all criminals will continue doing what they do regardless of what someone says or does.

- Ash on

This whole dialogue just reminds me of when I went to South Africa for the first time and saw women breastfeeding openly in public and Dr. 90210 with no blurs over the goodie bits. I thought their openness was so beautiful and was ashamed that I was taught to be ashamed of the human form. Our children don’t know that they’re sexual beings but we know that they are, period. Or least we should be able to acknowledge that they are. And we’re told that we’re so “civilized” in the U.S. Europe and Africa (I’ve never been to Asia or any other continent before, I can’t comment) are way ahead of us.

- Angela on

I love her she is awesome awesome awesome and I totally get what she means with kids being sexual.

I remember my two yr old nephew would find it especially comforting to go to a woman and lay on her breasts or rub himself against her. We didn’t freak out but we watched the behaviour and when we mentioned it to his doctor, she said all kids are like that.

Its completely natural and as long as parents handle the situation in a positive and light manner kids will learn to differentiate what they should and shouldn’t do.

I dont see why anyone finds what she said offensive. I remember being 12 and discovering that certain things felt good. I thought I was weird and my mom explained to me its all a part of growing up. I guess it depends on where you are from and how open people are with their kids.

I find people in Canada and the US so uptight and prudish about their bodies, the sexuality anything to do with the basics of their bodies. Elsewhere people are so much more liberal.

Weird but to each his own I guess!!!

- Brownsugar1313 on

It is BECAUSE of children’s unbridled sexuality, based on natural impulses and energy, that we bear the responsiblity of protecting them from people who prey on their innocence. They should be allowed to express themselves, but learn where and when this is appropriate. For example, I say to my son (or daughter when she was younger), “That is something you do in private, when you’re by yourself.” In the same way, parents should be free to express their political and moral values as they feel compelled. I believe what Susan means is that her children are not required to hold the same views, and they will make their own decisions once they’re old enough to vote. Some children embrace their parents’ values and others go in the opposite direction. ALL of us let our children know where we stand — it’s our job as parents.

- Mary Littleton-Rich on

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