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	<title>Comments on: Mary Louise Parker Opens Up About Ash&#039;s Adoption</title>
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		<title>By: crimpe</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wynn, look up &quot;presumptuous.&quot; Also, there is no winning or losing here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wynn, look up &#8220;presumptuous.&#8221; Also, there is no winning or losing here.</p>
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		<title>By: Wynn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t dissuading. Simply put- if you are prepared, emotionally ready and go into it knowing an adoption many not be possible, then you will probably do a very good job.  It is the first time parents, the ones who are wanting a baby so badly and are so excited thinking it is a sure thing, who get heartbroken when it all falls apart and the baby gets wrenched away from them to return to the broken home it came from simply because a judge thinks the child should be with it&#039;s &quot;mother&quot;, and I use that term loosely.  Sorry you are so offended when you aren&#039;t living this every day.  I won&#039;t respond anymore because some people you just can&#039;t win with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t dissuading. Simply put- if you are prepared, emotionally ready and go into it knowing an adoption many not be possible, then you will probably do a very good job.  It is the first time parents, the ones who are wanting a baby so badly and are so excited thinking it is a sure thing, who get heartbroken when it all falls apart and the baby gets wrenched away from them to return to the broken home it came from simply because a judge thinks the child should be with it&#8217;s &#8220;mother&#8221;, and I use that term loosely.  Sorry you are so offended when you aren&#8217;t living this every day.  I won&#8217;t respond anymore because some people you just can&#8217;t win with.</p>
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		<title>By: crimpe</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wynn, you are not the only person who works in the system. You seem rather presumptuous, as you know nothing about me. I suppose it is necessary to add that 4 of the couples who have adopted through foster and from Russia were gay and had fewer adoption options open to them. Foster families do indeed receive training and resources. Until you can single-handedly cure the foster system in this country I think it irresponsible and rather antisocial to dissuade people from fostering.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wynn, you are not the only person who works in the system. You seem rather presumptuous, as you know nothing about me. I suppose it is necessary to add that 4 of the couples who have adopted through foster and from Russia were gay and had fewer adoption options open to them. Foster families do indeed receive training and resources. Until you can single-handedly cure the foster system in this country I think it irresponsible and rather antisocial to dissuade people from fostering.</p>
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		<title>By: Wynn</title>
		<link>http://celebritybabies.people.com/2009/06/19/mary-louise-parker-opens-up-about-ashs-adoption/#comment-154532</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crimpe- yes, as was already stated, many families choose to adopt from Africa because unlike many Eastern European kids, they tend to be much more well-adjusted and not have so many attachment disorders.  Most agencies will tell you this and you can google it if you feel the need to.  I apologize if I didn&#039;t state the country the first time, but that is what I was referring to.  There is a need for fostering, but fostering babies like your friend does with no adoption or attachment in mind is MUCH different than fostering a family of teenagers who have been abused, neglected, etc. and the foster parents don&#039;t have the right training or the right expectations of what they are getting into so ultimately many times the children are failed yet again.  I say this as a social worker and as the wife of a D.A. as we live this every day. Until you spend years trying to fight the system, you really have no place to comment as you have never even fostered yourself.  For a first time parent who wants a child through adoption, most social workers will recommend a non-foster system adoption unless all ties have been severed with the previous family and the child will be in no danger of a vicious tug-of-war for years.  That is not healthy for the child to become attached and bounce around, nor is it healthy for the prospective parent.  The situation can be life-shattering for both.  My comments never suggested anything otherwise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crimpe- yes, as was already stated, many families choose to adopt from Africa because unlike many Eastern European kids, they tend to be much more well-adjusted and not have so many attachment disorders.  Most agencies will tell you this and you can google it if you feel the need to.  I apologize if I didn&#8217;t state the country the first time, but that is what I was referring to.  There is a need for fostering, but fostering babies like your friend does with no adoption or attachment in mind is MUCH different than fostering a family of teenagers who have been abused, neglected, etc. and the foster parents don&#8217;t have the right training or the right expectations of what they are getting into so ultimately many times the children are failed yet again.  I say this as a social worker and as the wife of a D.A. as we live this every day. Until you spend years trying to fight the system, you really have no place to comment as you have never even fostered yourself.  For a first time parent who wants a child through adoption, most social workers will recommend a non-foster system adoption unless all ties have been severed with the previous family and the child will be in no danger of a vicious tug-of-war for years.  That is not healthy for the child to become attached and bounce around, nor is it healthy for the prospective parent.  The situation can be life-shattering for both.  My comments never suggested anything otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Alesha</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alesha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah MLP, congrats to you &amp; your family. Good for you!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah MLP, congrats to you &amp; your family. Good for you!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: crimpe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crimpe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wynn - please don&#039;t minimize those who provide foster care. My friend who fosters newborns does so because she feels strongly about giving back. She has a child she adopted as a newborn, before fostering. She does not intend to adopt these newborns. Of course she feels emotions for them. My friend who continues to foster children after having adopted through the system provides a good home for the children who need it. I am not suggesting that adopting through foster is &quot;better&quot; than international adoption. Kids are kids. Adoption is a wonderful thing. I will point out that claiming that children up for adoption in other countries &quot;have a better disposition&quot; is a bizarre statement. And for what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;ve known three different people who have adopted from Russia and Eastern Europe who have endured years of therapies due to attachment issues as well as serious heath problems that were not disclosed. The children are very fortunate to have been adopted. But let&#039;s stop being so sanctimonious about the choices we make.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wynn &#8211; please don&#8217;t minimize those who provide foster care. My friend who fosters newborns does so because she feels strongly about giving back. She has a child she adopted as a newborn, before fostering. She does not intend to adopt these newborns. Of course she feels emotions for them. My friend who continues to foster children after having adopted through the system provides a good home for the children who need it. I am not suggesting that adopting through foster is &#8220;better&#8221; than international adoption. Kids are kids. Adoption is a wonderful thing. I will point out that claiming that children up for adoption in other countries &#8220;have a better disposition&#8221; is a bizarre statement. And for what it&#8217;s worth, I&#8217;ve known three different people who have adopted from Russia and Eastern Europe who have endured years of therapies due to attachment issues as well as serious heath problems that were not disclosed. The children are very fortunate to have been adopted. But let&#8217;s stop being so sanctimonious about the choices we make.</p>
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		<title>By: CrystalDex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CrystalDex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mary Louise is such a doll.  Those children will be blessed with such a great momma.

I myself have no problem with people adopting overseas, as long as they try to adopt in the United States first.  People are always griping about &quot;buying American made&quot; well how about something, someone, who is American made, does that clause not apply to our living and breathing future of this country?

Our children in this country should come first to us.  IMO, too many people want babies and are scared off by the foster home &quot;tainted&quot; children, that have already had a dose of how cruel life can truly be.
I am not saying that adopting babies is wrong, but not wanting a child of any age is.

So I read here that 500,000 out of 280 mil are in the foster care system in the US... that is a big problem not a minute one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Louise is such a doll.  Those children will be blessed with such a great momma.</p>
<p>I myself have no problem with people adopting overseas, as long as they try to adopt in the United States first.  People are always griping about &#8220;buying American made&#8221; well how about something, someone, who is American made, does that clause not apply to our living and breathing future of this country?</p>
<p>Our children in this country should come first to us.  IMO, too many people want babies and are scared off by the foster home &#8220;tainted&#8221; children, that have already had a dose of how cruel life can truly be.<br />
I am not saying that adopting babies is wrong, but not wanting a child of any age is.</p>
<p>So I read here that 500,000 out of 280 mil are in the foster care system in the US&#8230; that is a big problem not a minute one.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wynn,

Good advice, as is Kari&#039;s. As an adoptive dad, I am always happy when other people are so well-informed and don&#039;t have the common misnomers that others do.

Also, people that adopt babies in this country wait. And wait. And wait.  You are essentially waiting for the perfect (usually white) baby to fall in your lap because some teenager became pregnant. Is that wrong? No. But what has always bothered me is the incredible number of children already in this world who need a home. Babies that sleep 5 to a crib. Babies whose moms died and they have no one. NO ONE.  Older kids who grow up their whole lives with no parents and who are turned out of the orphanage at 16 simply to repeat the tragic cycle of their ill-fated parents.  I just think it&#039;s a shame that so many people don&#039;t look beyond the elusive perfect white baby and see the true children in need.

Tom (dad to 4: 2 from our bodies and 2 from our hearts)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wynn,</p>
<p>Good advice, as is Kari&#8217;s. As an adoptive dad, I am always happy when other people are so well-informed and don&#8217;t have the common misnomers that others do.</p>
<p>Also, people that adopt babies in this country wait. And wait. And wait.  You are essentially waiting for the perfect (usually white) baby to fall in your lap because some teenager became pregnant. Is that wrong? No. But what has always bothered me is the incredible number of children already in this world who need a home. Babies that sleep 5 to a crib. Babies whose moms died and they have no one. NO ONE.  Older kids who grow up their whole lives with no parents and who are turned out of the orphanage at 16 simply to repeat the tragic cycle of their ill-fated parents.  I just think it&#8217;s a shame that so many people don&#8217;t look beyond the elusive perfect white baby and see the true children in need.</p>
<p>Tom (dad to 4: 2 from our bodies and 2 from our hearts)</p>
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		<title>By: Wynn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crimpe- Maybe your friend can simply foster a child and not get emotionally attached to them, not start seeing the child as part of the family and is able to give the child up freely.  However, if you are fostering with the intent to adopt, it is a vicious cycle that can more often than not leave one heartbroken and terribly angry at such a broken system that ultimately fails the children themselves.  Seriously- there are only 500,000 (out of a country of 280 million) children in the foster care system (it&#039;s on their national website) and they receive medical care, housing, schooling and nutrition. No, it is not always the best situation and some people are not adequate foster parents but they are so much better off than other kids in the world.  The problem is, because most of them are not true orphans like the other 150 million kids in the world needing homes, the birth parents can come back and claim them like Marsha said.  And, for some of the above comments, most adoptive parents don&#039;t adopt from other countries to not have birth parent contact.  In fact, when you go to pick up your child, the really good agencies try and bring a living relative for you to meet and often families correspond with the relatives, sending them pictures of the child and updates in the following years.  Most children are put up for adoption because they are true orphans- AIDS, famine, disease taking away their parents and their relatives simply can&#039;t afford another mouth to feed.

I always think it&#039;s ridiculous that with the staggering number of orphans abroad (true orphans, living in appalling conditions), that people would even bring up the relatively small number of children available for adoption in this country.  So many of them are broken by years of parental neglect and problems that the best thing for them is a structured group home and counseling, not a young, inexperienced family wanting to take them in.  Orphans from other parts of the world tend to be well-loved and cared for by their nurses in the orphanage and although they don&#039;t have much at all and life is harsh for them, they still grow up with a better disposition that makes them more readily adoptable than kids here, since they usually stay with relatives as long as possible and have that familial bond.

It&#039;s hard to explain for those that want to close their minds, but I am a social worker and have seen first hand the differences.  I think it&#039;s lovely whenever a child gets a home.  People who take in troubled or special needs children and who can manage them are saints in my book.  Unfortunately, many times the enormity of their problems aren&#039;t fully understood by people and we all know the state doesn&#039;t offer adequate training and preparation, so it is a hard and tough cycle.


Marsha- I am so sorry about your sister and her family.  Many African countries have very relaxed age requirements (unlike China, Russia, etc) because they have such a vast amount of orphans.  You may want to tell you sister (if their hearts are still in it at all) to check into new programs such as Ghana, Liberia (which is temporarily on hold for some slight restructuring but will be back soon), Rwanda and even older programs such as Ethiopia.  They are much more cost efficient (oftentimes half the price, but each agency determines their own fees so shop around) as opposed to Guatemala, China, Russia, etc. and only one trip is required, not two.  There are many children there needing forever families. Check out rainbowkids.com for a small sampling of waiting children, adoption agency info, country requirements, etc. The website was founded by an adoptive mom for the sole purpose of helping others- I am in no way affliated with it but I think it&#039;s a great resource.  Also, there are many adoption grants and specialized loans available to help as well.  Adoption is not as unreachable as people think! Hope this helped and good luck to your sister!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crimpe- Maybe your friend can simply foster a child and not get emotionally attached to them, not start seeing the child as part of the family and is able to give the child up freely.  However, if you are fostering with the intent to adopt, it is a vicious cycle that can more often than not leave one heartbroken and terribly angry at such a broken system that ultimately fails the children themselves.  Seriously- there are only 500,000 (out of a country of 280 million) children in the foster care system (it&#8217;s on their national website) and they receive medical care, housing, schooling and nutrition. No, it is not always the best situation and some people are not adequate foster parents but they are so much better off than other kids in the world.  The problem is, because most of them are not true orphans like the other 150 million kids in the world needing homes, the birth parents can come back and claim them like Marsha said.  And, for some of the above comments, most adoptive parents don&#8217;t adopt from other countries to not have birth parent contact.  In fact, when you go to pick up your child, the really good agencies try and bring a living relative for you to meet and often families correspond with the relatives, sending them pictures of the child and updates in the following years.  Most children are put up for adoption because they are true orphans- AIDS, famine, disease taking away their parents and their relatives simply can&#8217;t afford another mouth to feed.</p>
<p>I always think it&#8217;s ridiculous that with the staggering number of orphans abroad (true orphans, living in appalling conditions), that people would even bring up the relatively small number of children available for adoption in this country.  So many of them are broken by years of parental neglect and problems that the best thing for them is a structured group home and counseling, not a young, inexperienced family wanting to take them in.  Orphans from other parts of the world tend to be well-loved and cared for by their nurses in the orphanage and although they don&#8217;t have much at all and life is harsh for them, they still grow up with a better disposition that makes them more readily adoptable than kids here, since they usually stay with relatives as long as possible and have that familial bond.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to explain for those that want to close their minds, but I am a social worker and have seen first hand the differences.  I think it&#8217;s lovely whenever a child gets a home.  People who take in troubled or special needs children and who can manage them are saints in my book.  Unfortunately, many times the enormity of their problems aren&#8217;t fully understood by people and we all know the state doesn&#8217;t offer adequate training and preparation, so it is a hard and tough cycle.</p>
<p>Marsha- I am so sorry about your sister and her family.  Many African countries have very relaxed age requirements (unlike China, Russia, etc) because they have such a vast amount of orphans.  You may want to tell you sister (if their hearts are still in it at all) to check into new programs such as Ghana, Liberia (which is temporarily on hold for some slight restructuring but will be back soon), Rwanda and even older programs such as Ethiopia.  They are much more cost efficient (oftentimes half the price, but each agency determines their own fees so shop around) as opposed to Guatemala, China, Russia, etc. and only one trip is required, not two.  There are many children there needing forever families. Check out rainbowkids.com for a small sampling of waiting children, adoption agency info, country requirements, etc. The website was founded by an adoptive mom for the sole purpose of helping others- I am in no way affliated with it but I think it&#8217;s a great resource.  Also, there are many adoption grants and specialized loans available to help as well.  Adoption is not as unreachable as people think! Hope this helped and good luck to your sister!</p>
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		<title>By: crimpe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crimpe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marsha, your sister&#039;s story demonstrates how important foster care is in this country. I have many friends who have adopted children through foster, and their experiences have varied, but they have all had very positive results. I have friends who have continued to foster, with no intention to adopt. Another friend adopted a newborn domestically through private adoption, she now fosters newborns with the goal being to provide the best care before the baby is reunited with the birth parent/s or adopted out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marsha, your sister&#8217;s story demonstrates how important foster care is in this country. I have many friends who have adopted children through foster, and their experiences have varied, but they have all had very positive results. I have friends who have continued to foster, with no intention to adopt. Another friend adopted a newborn domestically through private adoption, she now fosters newborns with the goal being to provide the best care before the baby is reunited with the birth parent/s or adopted out.</p>
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