Molly Ringwald Not Discounting a Natural Birth

06/02/2009 at 06:00 PM ET
Courtesy Fit Pregnancy

Molly Ringwald is striving for a natural birth with the boy/girl twins she expects in early August, but her choice has been greeted with resistance from some.

“It’s not easy to find an OB who won’t immediately schedule a C-section when you have twins,” she explains in the June/July issue of Fit Pregnancy. “It feels like our country has gone a little crazy on that front.”

That said, the 41-year-old The Secret Life of the American Teenager star will keep her eye on the prize — two healthy babies! — and adjust her birth plan accordingly.

“I really do feel that giving birth the natural way is important. Of course, if they tell me I have to have C-section because it’s dangerous for the babies not to, I won’t say no. But I don’t want to discount it as a possibility.”

Although Molly and husband Panio Gianopolous never envisioned such a large age gap between their daughter Mathilda Ereni, 5 ½, and her younger siblings, it turns out that the timing couldn’t have been better.

“I actually think it’s a good thing considering we’re having twins, as it would be so much harder with a toddler than with an almost 6-year-old,” Molly notes. “It’s exciting, especially since it’s a boy and girl…It’s the best of both worlds.”

A self-described “deficient” playdate planner, Molly notes that there are other perks to having twins. “It will be nice that they have each other,” she admits. “I won’t have to scramble for playdates; I am really bad about that.” As for Mathilda, although she’s “excited” to be a big sister there’s also a “certain amount of trepidation” about the rapidly changing family dynamic.

“She’s been an only child for 5 ½ years. She doesn’t exactly know what it’s going to be like. Everywhere we go people tell her she’s going to be a big sister. She’s been a baby for so long, so it’s a lot for her to take in. She did tell us that when the babies are born that we should find a stepdaddy for them.”

Click below to read about what Molly’s craving, and her advice for other expectant moms.

Having been a trio for so many years, Molly says that what she’s looking forward to most is having a bigger family. She’s also excited, naturally, to finally meet her new son and daughter! “It’s so hard to imagine your children before they are actually here,” Molly points out. “I say to my husband all the time, ‘Can you imagine life without Mathilda?’ She is such a huge part of us now, it’s impossible to think of life without her.” Although her daughter has “elements” of both her parents, Molly says Mathilda is one-of-a-kind. “She has … her own personality, sense of humor, and individual ideas,” Molly reveals. “It’s so interesting to see how they grow and develop.”

“It will be the same way with the twins. Because it hasn’t happened yet, it’s so exciting to think about who these little people will be.”

Because the twins are likely her last children, Molly says she’ll be making a concerted effort to savor each and every moment. “Everyone says it goes by so fast, but when you are in middle of it, it doesn’t seem like it’s going so quickly,” she notes. “All of sudden, your baby is a toddler, then a little girl and all grown up. It does go by in a heartbeat.” Her approach doesn’t necessarily extend to pregnancy, however; Admitting that she doesn’t love being pregnant, Molly is quick to clarify that she doesn’t hate it, either. “People are so kind” to expectant mothers, she notes before adding,

“There is something wonderful about it. The second you know, you cannot stop thinking about it. But I find it difficult to be restricted in my movements and to feel vulnerable all the time. I am used to feeling very strong and active, to be able to pick up anything and you can’t do that when you are pregnant.”

With Mathilda, Molly craved Mexican food but with the twins, her hankerings have been for Japanese; That take-out trade-off has translated into less weight gain overall. “It…is definitely a better craving to have,” Molly says. “I also want anything with water in it like cucumbers, watermelon and orange juice.” Although she has “worked out a little bit,” Molly says she hasn’t “gone crazy with it.” Instead, her priority has been on “resting and making sure everything is progressing along.”

“I try to eat right and be sane about it. I know my body will come back.”

Describing her mothering style as “loving, compassionate and interested,” Molly says that she’s a “little bit more of a disciplinarian” than Panio — but she’s far from rigid. “I think I am fairly liberal in that I don’t try to force things, ideas or religion on Mathilda, but I want to make sure that she has manners, a code of ethics and cares about others,” Molly explains. As for her advice for other expectant moms, Molly notes that “every woman is different and has her own experience.” She suggests,

“It’s important to eat right and take care of yourself. You don’t need to run a marathon but don’t stop working out if it feels good. You have to listen to your own body. And trust that you can give birth.”

Source: Fit Pregnancy

– Missy

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Sammy-xx on

I was just watching Sixteen Candldes (a guilty pleasure of mine, always gets me chuckling) and was thinking she must me due soon.
I can’t wait to hear the twins names, I wonder if they will have a little bit of a Greek flare to it.

Jasmine C. on

WOW! Molly Ringwald looks beautiful on that cover!!!

Liv on

This makes me like her even more. I think her openess about a natural delivery is great. So many people especially with twins go for a c-section. I figure why not try naturally and if it doesn’t work you have a back up.

Jessica on

I don’t think the age gap is that bad, me and my sisters(twins) are almost 5 years apart exactly. It’s a good gap I think..I felt no hard feelings and was off to kindergarten a couple days after they were born, they were fun and I thought of them as my real life baby dolls. Well wishes to the family!

Jessica on

Oh I forgot to mention, my mom delivered my sisters naturally, 3 minutes apart to be exact :)

Mrs. R. on

I don’t think it’s mothers who necessarily choose c-sections for twins. I think it’s the OBs who recommend them. Just as Molly said in the article, it’s hard to find an OB who will consider the possibility. Because twins are considered high risk (whatever that means…) the tendency is for docs do c-sections to cut the risk. Really, it comes down to the insanely high liability insurance that doctors have to carry, and how doctors tend to make decisions with that in mind. I don’t blame them, I empathize, but at the same time, I made sure my OB wasn’t one of those kinds of doctors.

Tricia on

With the way some people will sue at the drop of a hat, and the cost of malpractice insurance for OBs, it’s little wonder that many Drs push for scheduled c-sections for high risk pregnancies. It’s good that Molly is open and flexible to the possibilities, and doesn’t have to have things written in stone. However her two new kids arrive, if it’s “safe & sound”, that’s the most important thing.

Mrs. A on

I delivered my twins naturally without any epidural and I can’t imagine doing it any other way. Most of the nurses said that I was the only natural twin birth they had ever seen – how sad! Kudos to her for being upfront about it and saying she doesn’t automatically want a c-section. There are too many of those already! And she does look beautiful on the cover – healthy and womanly, what a nice change! :)

Sophy on

This isn’t in reference to Molly Ringwald’s comments specifically, but it does interest me how many people seem to equate “natural” with “good” these days, not just with child birth but with everything. The main example I can think of is Kate Gosselin’s obsession with organic, all-natural foods (on one episode of her show she gave the kids organic, all-natural marshmallow fluff and felt good about it, I guess because natural sugar is much better for you than regular sugar!) Some things are definitely better natural, but not everything. I’m so grateful for many modern day, completely unnatural conveniences, lol. “Preservatives” in food is a dirty word these days, but once upon a time you wouldn’t touch a food without preservatives with a ten-yard pole because it hadn’t been properly preserved and was likely to go rotten very quickly.

Likewise, it’s very nice to wish for a natural birthing experience, and I’m sure it helps moms to bond with their babies and feel great that they were able to birth their children the old fashioned way (and enjoy the faster recovery time too) but really, if you undergo a c-section, no one’s the worse off. No one remembers how they were born – as long as they’re here, safe and healthy,exactly how that’s achieved is incidental, to me.

Lisa on

Not all doctors are eager to cut with multiples. I had twins and assumed i’d have to have a Csection. My doctors said nope,as long as my body tolerated labor I could do it naturally. Proud to say I delivered my boys without any drugs and in less than 3 hours,from water breaking to my second son coming out.

momto3 on

I know the photo of Molly is photoshopped, but she looks wonderful. I remember her on Facts of Life as well as Sixteen Candles, Breakfast Club, and a few others. She ‘seems’ to have it all together. Good luck to her and her family.

wowfornoobs on

Actually, Sophy, c-section babies *can* be worse off, to use your term. (I recognize that there are instances where c-sections are necessary and I’m very grateful they exist for that purpose–I’m a c-section baby myself!) However, babies born by c-section have a much higher risk of becoming asthmatic or having respiratory problems, or having chiropractic issues, and it drastically increases the mother’s risk of having a stillbirth in a subsequent pregnancy. (Also, think of it this way: the mother is having four layers of muscle and skin sliced through — it is NO minor operation. More mothers die from c-sections than from vaginal births.)

http://www.balanceatlanta.com/files/cesarian_section_births.pdf

C-sections are amazing when necessary, I agree! But when unnecessary, and in a non-emergency situation, they are detrimental to both the health of the mother and the baby.

kelly on

“I think I am fairly liberal in that I don’t try to force things, ideas or religion on Mathilda, but I want to make sure that she has manners, a code of ethics and cares about others,”

I am exactly the same way with my almost 5 year old daughter (and we happen to have a baby boy due in 5 weeks). I instituted from a young age that she have manners, and that she is respectful to others and their feelings. As soon as she could talk she was to say please and thank you, and call adults by “Miss/Mrs.” or “Mr.” with their first or last name, depending on how well we knew them.

Charity on

Molly was in Facts of Life?

I haven’t kept up with her much, is her husband her father’s biological father? I only ask b/c of her quoting her daughter saying “we need to find them a stepdaddy”

daniela on

Sophy – I agree with you. I feel as if I’m doing something wrong cause I haven’t jumped on the “natural” and organic bandwagon yet! :) I’m glad someone else is happy to have “unnatural” conveniences around, I don’t think me or my family are any worse off than anyone else. But to each their own I guess.

Anyway, Molly looks super-fab! She has barely aged since Sixteen Candles – I’m jealous!! She also gives me hope of that I can possibly have a baby in my late 30s too! :)

Sam & Freya's Mum on

Kelly, ITA, we’re the same, very into our son being confident, strong on life skills, socialising him (he helps me pay for things at shops, likes to fill the car with petrol with mum’s help and pay inside etc,little old man!) but also strong on him being polite (although I do realise at times kids will be kids being a preschooler, but prompting manners if he forgets or is in the wrong, being 4!), and we’ll do the same with his little sister (now 17mths) once she’s old enough, although we say ‘please’ and ‘thank you’ or ‘ta’ when interacting with her now, starting early. I was brought up that way, it’s become a good habit, one or two words like that canmake a difference I think, rather than coming across as obnoxious or rude little beings, IMO. I can’t believe some parents I see not taking it seriously or making their children apologise if they are rough with other kids!

Sam & Freya's Mum on

…..also, at our son’s Kindergarten they’re strong on the kids’ caring for others, showing empathy if someone’s hurt, treat them as you’d like to be treated in same situation. Think it’s a great idea that they encourage them to be considerate at 3-4 years of age. We also have one of each and our last with daughter now (is over 3 year gap and we like it,more independent, toilet trained big brother, don’t need baby gear for both, etc, lot easier we found). Making most of it while she’s young, but it’s flying by 2nd/last time around, which is sad, but lots of fun in meantime – and chaos, lol…All the best to Molly with her new additions.

Bren on

She looks gorgeous! I can’t wait to see how her show plays out with her pregnancy since they are writing it in!

Sophy, I completely agree! Personally I think C-Sections should be a last resort since our bodies are made to have children and its quite possible to have twins naturally but thank goodness for the option of a C-section and I personally would opt for pain medication when I have children because I know for myself I would be hysterical from the pain (I am such a wimp) and have done this to myself in instances where I had stomach pain, started getting upset, crying and just worrying and ended up in the hospital because I aggrevated my stomach so much that I had fluid on it. I just think people should be open and understanding and if some want natural, I think that is so great! If they don’t then so be it (I am not meaning c-section as a choice but epidural or something to help with pain, yes!)

Allison on

She looks great! I had a scheduled c-section with my twins, but that was only because they were both breech. Crossing my fingers hers stay head down.

Sadie on

I agree Sophy.
And for the record, OBs don’t always advise C-sections for twins for their own intents and purposes. I had twins in Feb and my OB, who is a fantastic and very pro-natural, would only deliver the twins via C-section. Her reasoning was that 80% of the time when twins are born vaginally, after the first twin is delivered, the second twin “turns” (due to the sudden space!), gets into trouble and ends up being born via emergency caesar. Now of course that’s not to say it isn’t possible (well done fellow twin mums Lisa and Mrs A), however, this idea that OBs have their own agendas all the time is ridiculous. Sometimes you have to trust someone who has been delivering babies for over 20 years – they usually know a thing or two. Besides, they are accountable for the safety of mother and child, so they are hardly going to take unnecessary risks.
Wowfomoobs, have you ever had a caesar? I find your generalisation totally misleading – elective caesars are NOT necessarily detrimental to the health of mother and child. Mine certainly wasn’t. My twins were born in perfect health, we had a wonderful birth and I had a fast recovery. One of my friend’s had a “natural” birth two weeks after mine and ended up with 4th degree tears and blood transfusions.There are as many horror vaginal birth stories out there as there are caesarean births. What about Benjamin Bratt’s daughter, who has some kind of brain damage from lack of oxygen in the birth canal during a vaginal birth? Vaginal birth is not the be all and end all.

CelebBabyLover on

Charity- Yes, her husband is her daughter’s biological father. You can tell by the way the article is worded. :)

kelly- I agree with teaching your child manners…But expecting them to say “please,” and “thank you” and call adults “Mr/Miss/Mrs.” the minute they can talk? I think that’s going a little too far! Most children can barely pronunce “please” and “thank you” properly when they first start talking, let alone remember to say those words all the time.

Sam and Freya’s Mom- I like your approach much better! Even though your 17-month-old daughter can talk, you are not forcing her to have impeccable manners right away!

Maddie on

Sounds like Molly may have possibly watched The Business of Being Born? I agree, she does look fantastic! Is there a picture of her husband anywhere? It seems Mathilda may favour him more, as she doesn’t look alot like Molly to me. I hope she has a healthy end to her pregnancy and hopefully the birth goes smoothly and to her plan. I was born the year The Breakfast Club came out, but as a young teen I watched all of Molly’s movies (as my aunts did when they were teens, and even today I still adore them).
My younger sister, who is almost 16 just asked me for my copy of The Breakfast Club the other day. Its fantastic that these iconic movies are passed down and shared through the years and new generations are falling in love with The Brat Pack.

Maddie on

Molly looks so serene in that picture btw (even if, as some say, it is photoshoped).

Marischa on

I work as a nurse in The Netherlands. It’s very common to have your twins the natural way, when it’s possible. When both babies are in the right position, the mum has to start the delivery the natural way. Sometimes it happens that during labor, doctors decide to have a c-section after all. But then it’s more like the last option rather than start a c-section straighy away.
Molly looks great on that cover by the way!

Morgan on

Sadie, couldn’t have said it better myself. I was almost 2 weeks overdue with my daughter, labored for 36 hours without drugs (not by choice, either!! I wanted them!)and ended up having an emergency C-section b/c Sofia’s heart rate (and mine) were dropping with every contraction. Thankfully, she was born within 5 minutes of being wheeling into the OR and has had no complications. On the opposite end, a friend in my Lamaze class who gave birth 3 days after I did, was determined to have a natural birth. She went in and labored for 23 hours refusing assistance and has had such tearing that she was on a colostomy (not sure if I spelled that right) bag for 8 weeks. Until she had to go back in for corrective surgery. That said, her birth is not every natural birth and every C-section with an issue is not ever C-section birth. But be careful with the fearmongering, wowfornoobs: for every article thrown at people about C-sections, there are centuries worth of well documented cases of women dying from vaginal deliveries.

MZ on

Well said, Sophy!

chestar on

I do not understand the quote her daughter said about ” we must find them a step-daddy” I feel it was a strange thing to say…. Unless im missing anything!
Can anyone help clear it up !

I do agree she looks wonderful…best of luck to her and her family

wowfornoobs on

Sadie, I agree that C-sections aren’t necessarily detrimental to mother and baby. I apologize for the generalization. But the vast majority of vaginal births are fine, as well, and they’re proven to be the safest & healthiest way of birthing for both mom and baby.

brannon on

i disagree about teaching children manners right from the start – its like anything else … start as early as possible and it becomes natural. My son just turned 3 and I have expected impeccable manners since he began talking – and he has them. As a teacher, I seem many children who don’t and it drives me insane.

aroundthewaygirl on

Molly Ringwald looks fantastic! I hope she gets the delivery she wants. I’m so tired of sancti-moms bragging and dolling out armchair advice about how C-section deliveries a so evil. Black women who were slaves were performing C-sections when the baby or the mother were in trouble during labor and delivery. It’s not some evil medical procedure practiced by doctors looking to make a quick buck where every baby comes out with poor health. Also, the majority asthma related illness are due to poverty and primarily affect children who grow up in poor urban neighborhoods which are infested with insects and have very poor air quality.

C-sections have also become life-savers for women with HIV who become pregnant and go on to have HIV-negative babies along with taking the anti-virals.

You can find a negative in any surgical procedure but why women are so obsessed with making another woman feel bad because she and her doctor chose a C-section is beyond me. It’s so catty and unnecessary.

MammaDucky on

Sadie, it’s not a generalization, it’s fact. The maternal and infant mortality rate is HIGHER with a Casesarean section (casesar??) versus vaginal. It’s even higher for a C-section versus a VBAC. *Note, I’m a 2 time c-section Momma with twins. My first c-section (twins) was due to my being young and too scared to stand up to my OB, the second was a valid medical reason.
The reasons why women used to die in childbirth are because there were no medical alternatives if there was a problem and for the same reasons people used to die from common ailments. Now, thankfully there have been wonderful advancements in medical technology.
I’m way off topic with this, so I’ll head back to the original post. Mollie looks wonderful!

babyboopie on

I almost had a C-Section with my son as he just wasn’t coming out but I managed to give birth naturally. I didn’t have any major problems like haemorraging or anything but I did have some bad tears and bleeding- it took me six months to properly heal and recover so I don’t know if it would have been easier if I had a C-Section but I am thankful that both me and my baby were healthy and safe, that’s all that matters. With my second baby, I am hoping to have a vaginal birth again because I was fine last time but if I do need a C-Section for whatever reason ( I hope not!) , I only hope I’ll be in good hands.

Jen on

Here Here Sadie at last a comment that states truth.
The second twin often gets into trouble because of the sudden space. Mortality rates are high for the second twin also.

JenLaw on

Girl, I was your age when I carried twin boy/girl, worked on Friday, gave birth on Sunday and drove myself to the hospital. I had them “natural” and twenty minutes apart, piece of cake. You may need to go to a “out-of-the-way” hospital to do this, that’s what I had to do, no bed rest, either.

Mimi on

You go, JenLaw. I can’t stand women who don’t brag about their birthing stories! If you can’t make other moms feel bad, what’s the point of being a woman!!!

I personally think Molly says it the best. She’d like her twins’ births to be natural since it is natural to have babies, but she won’t feel inferior if she has a c-section. Now if only JenLaw could get ahold of Molly and shame her into feeling otherwise!

I’m just kidding, JenLaw. I know that someone women are just insecure and have to brag to make themselves feel better.

Andy on

The notion that an elective c-section is detrimental to the health of a mother may be slightly exaggerated, but it is in fact stemming from truth. It’s not a misleading generalization, and I do beleive she is talking about an ELECTIVE c-section (not to be confused with SCHEDULED, as their is a considerable difference between the reasoning with the two), it’s medical fact. A c-section is more dangerous to both mother and child, but certainly not deadly.

As I said, there is a considerable difference between a scheduled, and elective c-section. Scheduled c-sections are made with the doctors full advice and support where a medical reason may prevent a successful natural birth, where as elective c-sections are usually made without the doctors full support, for more ‘cosmetic’ reasons.

I think it’s fantastic the c-section option is there as a back up, but personally don’t beleive it should be the first option.
I love Molly’s stance on it. Being so open about it.
Personally, I find it said that a doctor is willing to cut someone open, for reasons such as ” My husband is going away for 8 weeks, my doctor is giving me a c-section at 36 weeks so my husband can see the baby” or my personal favorite “I’m electing a c-section because I do not want my vagina ruined”.

sadie on

“Sadie, it’s not a generalization, it’s fact. The maternal and infant mortality rate is HIGHER with a Casesarean section (casesar??) versus vaginal.”

Do you know why, MammaDuck? Because the stats for elective and emergency caesareans are all bundled in together. The mortality stats come from emergency caesareans, where mother and/or baby are already in trouble from a vaginal birth gone wrong.
Honestly, go ahead and find me one case of maternal or infant mortality from an elective C-section? And Andy, if that caesar is elected for cosmetic reasons, practical reasons, fear of the unknown or whatever – who cares? It’s the mother’s choice. Not yours, mine or anyone elses.
Wowfomoobs, I understand what you’re saying and I’m really not trying to knock vaginal births here. I just can’t stand to see C-sections spoken about in the usual BS terms. They are a legitimate birth option and women shouldn’t be bullied into having vaginal births just because other women think they should.

Charity on

@chestar — Thank you! So glad I’m not the only one confused by the “stepdaddy” comment. I checked IMDB and her current husband is the biological father of her daughter, so why would her kid think the babies need a “stepdaddy”? I can only speculate that, maybe, a lot of the daughters friends have stepdaddies? CBB, please get more info around this quote, if possible. Thanks! :)

Cammie on

aroundthewaygirl-
Whoa! I have to comment on your theory of asthma, because it completely made me laugh out loud. Insects, poverty, filth? Asthma can affect anyone who inheirits it from their gene pool, regardless of race, class, or financial status. I have always lead an upper middle class life, very clean, no insects in my childhood homes or ever, and guess what…. I have always had asthma.

noam on

i don’t really understand the big debate between natural, vaginal, and c-section births…why does it really matter how another woman delivers her baby? it’s only important that each expectant mother gets information from her doctor about the different options and makes an informed decision that both she and her doctor feel comfortable with…really, arguing about it on a blog like this one is a bit unnecessary, in my opinion…as for molly’s daughter’s “stepdaddy” comment–i’m guessing one or a few of her friends have stepfathers,and she is thinking that’s a good setup for her. if she’s only six and it isn’t her own family setup, she probably doesn’t realize what a stepfather is exactly, just that she’s heard the word…i’m just guessing though…

CelebBabyLover on

sadie- Actually, some of those studies DO speak about elective C-sections specifically, including the one that wowfornoobs linked. Let’s face it: A C-section is MAJOR surgery, and just like any major surgery, it carries risks.

I think it’s wonderful that we have C-sections as a back-up if something goes wrong (I was delivered via C-section myself, due to a minor complication). However, I don’t understand why a mother would willing put her child in danger by having an elective C-section. That’s just my opinion, though.

Oh, and I do agree with those who have said that sometimes (note that none of them said ALL of the time), doctors pressure mothers into having C-sections, mostly to avoid getting sued. For example, it makes me sad that almost all breech babies are delivered via C-section these days. It is possible for some types of breech babies to be delivered vaginally. My mother, for example, was footling (foot-first) breech…and was born in an uncomplicated, succesful vaginal delivery. The only complication, if you can even call it that, was that my grandmother had at least one tear. However, it wasn’t a very bad one (in fact, my grandma was begging to go home within a day or two of my mother’s birth, which was unheard of back then!). Overall, however, the delivery was probably easier than the pregnancy (which was a very difficult one for my grandmother)!

Anyway, I agree with the posters who have said that women are designed to birth babies. As I said earlier, it’s great that we have C-sections around as back-up, but I think that, as long as there are no known complications, the body should be allowed to try to do what comes naturally first. Oh, and I’ll take a torn “ruined” vagina over having my skin and flesh cut into any day! :)

Sadie on

Celebbabylover -
Good for you if that’s your opinion. You can birth your children any way you please. I’m just sorry you feel it necessary to make statements like you don’t understand why “a mother would willing put her child in danger by having an elective C-section”. Guess what? Your beloved Angelina Jolie had an elective C-section with her twins, too. Is she a bad mother who put her children at risk too?
If a doctor tells a mother that an elective caesar is the safest way to deliver twins, then I don’t understand why a mother would be so dogmatic about having a baby “the natural way” that she would put her second twin’s life at risk. It didn’t matter to me that there was a chance this wouldn’t happen. What mattered to me were the odds were far greater that my second twin would get into trouble if I attempted a vaginal delivery. So I elected for the caesar. Shame on me for putting my children in danger!

lauralee on

Wow, Sadie, that is just strikingly wrong information.

“The mortality risk of undergoing an elective cesarean delivery with no emergency present has recently been reported as almost 3 times the risk of a vaginal delivery”

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/441201

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jay-gordon/do-not-have-an-elective-c_b_28720.html

Also: “The maternal mortality is higher than that associated with vaginal birth (5.9 for elective cesarean delivery v. 18.2 for emergency cesarean v. 2.1 for vaginal birth, per 100 000 completed pregnancies in the United Kingdom during 1994–1996)”

from http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/170/5/813

I could go on and on. Nobody with even a basic understanding of obstetrics refutes that elective cesarean carries higher morbidity and mortality than vaginal birth!

lauralee on

Oh, and I love how the focus is always on women’s right to choose elective c-section. What about the baby’s right to choose how he is born? Does the baby not factor in whatsoever? You are NEVER going to convince me that a baby would choose a surgical removal over an ordinary (low-risk, uncomplicated) vaginal birth. Babies are designed, prepared, and primed for vaginal birth. Every mechanism involved has a purpose. It is cavalier to presume that that these mechanisms (whether you believe they were designed by a Creator, or evolved by natural selection) can be opted out of, like a ham sandwich or a turkey sandwich, without ramifications.

Yes, there are certain medical situations in which the benefits outweigh the risks (but the WHO thinks this should not occur more than 15% of the time – not twice that). But to knowingly take these risks on unneccessarily…. it’s almost the height of arrogance. “Sure, I know nature designed the final phase of my baby’s lung development to be the squeeze of the birth canal removing any remaining fluids there, and for a crucial step in colonizing my baby’s gut with healthy bacteria to be also accomplished by passing through the vagina…. but, nah, sounds like too much work for me. I’d rather just have surgery. It won’t matter in the long run, right? (Wrong).”

You wouldn’t want me smoking all day long right in front of your baby, would you? Why is it that we get that some things are far from ideal, but can’t seem to acknowledge that something as HUGE as how they make the transition from intrauterine to extrauterine life – a VERY complex and nuanced physiology, affecting lifelong health – is vitally important?

Sadie on

Lauralee, statistics are not always black and white. There are less statistics on vaginal birth mortalities because when a baby gets into trouble the mom is almost always rushed into an emergency caesarean. And hence the mortality statistic is attached to the caesarean, not the vaginal birth.
I have two children, one born natural and one born c-section. There were no “ramifications” that you speak of from the c-section, my daughter is healthy as a horse, has been from the start.
People like you seem to like making women who have had c-sections feel like crap. Not sure why.
And as if any baby cares how he or she is born, so long as he or she is born healthy.
Molly, I wish you happy, healthy children, however they arrive.

Morgan on

Again, I agree with Sadie’s comment (#42). If vaginal worked for you, thumbs up. C-section (an emergency, by the way) worked for me for my first and due to a tilted pelvis, will work for any future children. I can’t stand the sancti-moms either, so to my way of thinking: you stay the hell out of my delivery room and I’ll stay out of yours

Danielle on

It’s not like the drugs exit your body the second the baby and placenta are delivered. They need to wear off (think about how your mouth is numb after you have cavities drilled). When you deliver without drugs, your natural adrenaline and hormones have a chance to kick in and support you.

The reason I want to go drug-free with my second child is because I hated how I felt after giving birth to Anya. I hated the shivers the epidural gave me (that no one mentioned would happen but no one was surprised) and how groggy I felt after I delivered, while I’ve heard about women who have given birth without drugs feeling good enough to get up and have a meal with their family immediately after.

acidstars9 on

She is merely pointing out the fact that cesareans are statistically more dangerous than a vaginal birth. This is because it is major surgery and it includes extra risks that would be associated with any other major surgery, and also interferes with the body’s natural system (ie the removal of fluid in the baby’s lungs, etc). Basically it goes like this:

If there is a problem with a vaginal delivery, then the safer option would be a c section- if it is a normal, healthy pregnancy the safer option is a vaginal birth. No one is denying the fact that sometimes vaginal birth can go wrong- and that is where c sections come in. And the vast majority of babies born by c section are normal and healthy- but that does not change the fact that a c section does carry more risks.

Women can choose what they want- people are merely trying to educate people on the facts so they can make an informed decision.

Karen on

I say, “Go Molly!” I had an unmedicated birth with my twin sons, and it definitely is worth it when all evidence indicates that mom and babies are well. Why take drugs, all of which affect babies, if not desired or unless needed? Check out the Natural Birth of Twins and Triplets at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E-wULAaD50!

CelebBabyLover on

lauralee- I agree! And Sadie, you’re putting words in mouth. I never said that I’m against C-sections when they are the safest way to deliver a baby. In Angie’s case (and what’s wrong with me liking her? By saying “Your beloved Angelina Jolie,” you seemed to imply that it’s wrong of me to like her. Maybe I mis-understood, though, and if I did I apologize.), a C-section was the safest option with the twins because she also had Shiloh via C-section (because she was breech). Also, most doctors won’t do VBACs with twins.

If a C-section is the safest way for a baby to be delivered, I’m all for it. What I am against is purely elective C-sections, that is, those done for reasons such as convience, being afraid of a vaginal birth, or not wanting to end up with a “ruined” vagina.

Also, in a sense, babies DO care about how they are born. I have read that a C-section birth is much more of a shock to the baby’s system than a vaginal birth, as they come out suddenly rather than gradually. Thus they are exposed to the relatively cold air (compared to the warm amniotic fluid) all at once rather than gradually.

This is why a lot of C-section babies (my brother included) have to be put in warmers briefly after being born.

acidstars- I couldn’t have said it better myself!

Amanda on

I think it’s naive to think a doctor doesn’t have their
own agenda. Are you kidding? Or course they do.
c section is easier for them to “schedule” in and they
don’t have to wait around. and if they do let you go
natural it’s because they want the challenge to be able
to deliver twins. they get to brag about it. they are just
regular people. kind of like egoes that mothers have. when
they talk about breastfeeding for 2 years,( my baby lives on
my milk alone for 6 months, it’ slike i gave her life twice!!!) or giving birth naturally. ( i was in labor for 32 hours and pushed
her out in 2 hours and didn’t have anything but ice chips!! i feel so close to her) it’ sthe same thing. it’s pride.on the one
hand you have the ego driven “natural mother” (ever notice how important breastmilk is and then when the kids like 3 they live
off cheetohs and chicken nuggets and haven[t tasted a veggie since they had it froma jar) a natural doctor, who’s ego needs fed. or you have the “let’s get some drugs in me and get this thing out through my stomach so my vagina won’t be ruined for life and make sure the scar is low” and the “schedule ms. davis in for 10 oclock, i should be able to make my golf date.”
doesn’t really matter, just do what you want, not what your doctor
wants. every dr. has an agenda.

Dana on

I’m so happy for her. Having twins I bet is an exciting thing and a scary thing as well. She will do just fine. I think her trying to have a natural birth is a wonderful thing. Trying to do it the natural way is the way it was intented. She looks great for having twins. I think every woman ought to give it a try. You might not always be able to do it but you ought to atleast try.
Congrats on you having twins.

Dana

Stephanie on

I am currently 9 months pregnate with my third child and I made sure to space them out. My oldest is my son he’s 7 then my daughter is 3. I think a 3 or 4 year gap is perfect. I don’t have to worry about double diaper duty and my kids are so ready and willing to help with all the new baby stuff. It really makes it less stressful on mom when you involve the other children and let them help out. Because of the issues I had with my son’t birth I had to have a c-section and have had to continue having them because in the area where I live the closest hospital that would let me have a vaginal birth is like 4 hours away. Good luck to you girl and I hope you get the natural birth you want!!!!!!

Dana on

Great video link Karen. I agree with the fact the US schedules too many c-sections and like Marischa said, in many other countries it’s alot more common w/ vag. birth, even if the baby’s breech. I think it all boils down to the malpractice insurance that OB’s are worried about…

Bee on

Chestar – I might be totally wrong but I interpreted the “step daddy” comment to mean that Mathilda is a daddy’s girl and doesn’t want to share her daddy with the twins.

Donna on

Molly,
Drop your OB and find a midwife.The choice is yours not your doctors.

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