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Pete and Bronx Wentz Take a Bite Out of the Big Apple

05/21/2009 at 01:00 PM ET
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Daddy duty! While Ashlee Simpson-Wentz was busy promoting Melrose Place with her new castmates, husband Pete Wentz was holding down the fort with son Bronx Mowgli in New York City on Wednesday.

Ready for a “big day of being Mr. Mom,” as Pete tweeted, he took his 6-month-old baby boy out in the Big Apple.

The Fall Out Boy bassist’s own schedule picks back up tomorrow, when the band performs on the Today show’s summer concert series.

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Ashley on

Wow he’s a little old man. Not one of my fav celeb babies. But he sure does look like a Simpson!

Sammy-xx on

My heart melts evertime I see a tatted up rocker with his baby.
So adorable.

Bronx looks alot like Ashlee from this angle, I see him more like Pete in other pictures.

Amandamay on

What a cutie!

gianna on

Bronx is so cute, totally looks like ashlee and simpson family.

Amanda on

Not one of my fav celeb babies either. He does look like an old man.

Amanda on

Hope it was warm in NYC that day.

Sarah on

That is one cute lil boy! I adore the name Bronx, so unique but sounds like a great name.

Am I the only one who hates the term Mr. Mom?

Niki on

He is so cute! I am starting to like his name… middle name, not so much, but I really like Bronx.

Shawna on

I think Bronx looks just like his Dad. Look at the nose! Very adorable!

aubrey mackenzie on

Bronx is so adorable

aubrey mackenzie on

Bronx is so adorable

aubrey mackenzie on

Bronx is so adorable

aubrey mackenzie on

Bronx is so adorable

aubrey mackenzie on

Bronx is so adorable

m on

“Rubber band” wrists are the best!

Lis on

I think he’s a dead-ringer for Ashlee too! How adorable! I think he is absolutely precious…a lot of babies look like old men…they’re bald and toothless ;) So I think the old man comparison is endearing!

Alex on

Still absolutely do not like the name at all, but each to their own. Bronx is starting to look a lot like Pete now.

L on

Bronx is adorable & i LOVE his name!!

Brandi on

I think he is looking more and more like Pete. So adorable.

Kayla on

Is Ashlee a true red head? Just wonderring where the red hair on bronx came from..

Erica on

I <3 this celeb baby so much. Seriously my favourite next to Harlow. I think he does look like a little old man, but I think that's cute. I think he looks a lot like Ashlee, especially in his eyes but I can see Pete in him too. To cute <3

babyboopie on

He’s cute! Pete’s tweets make me laugh.

CTBmom on

I agree…Bronx is totally a Simpson. Love the fuzzy hair!

Sam & Freya's Mum on

Agree with you Ashley, not my fav/cutest but may grow into his looks, & really dislike the poor boy’s name, but glad to see Pete enjoying his daddy duty, very sweet!

Sam & Freya's Mum on

Agree with you Ashley, not my fav/cutest but may grow into his looks, & really dislike the poor boy’s name, but glad to see Pete enjoying his daddy duty, very sweet!

Sam & Freya's Mum on

Agree with you Ashley, not my fav/cutest but may grow into his looks, & really dislike the poor boy’s name, but glad to see Pete enjoying his daddy duty, very sweet!

Sam & Freya's Mum on

Agree with you Ashley, not my fav/cutest but may grow into his looks, & really dislike the poor boy’s name, but glad to see Pete enjoying his daddy duty, very sweet!

Sam & Freya's Mum on

Agree with you Ashley, not my fav/cutest but may grow into his looks, & really dislike the poor boy’s name, but glad to see Pete enjoying his daddy duty, very sweet!

crimpe on

Yeah, although I loved the movie “Mr. Mom”, the term should be shelved. Pete looks so uncomfortable, like physically ill in this photo. I’m sure it’s just the paps getting to him.

Mariel on

HES CUTE!!! HE LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE ASHLEE’S DAD!!

Manon on

He is adorable.

I love little boy babies who look little boys like this (prob. as remind me of my son at the same age!). I think people go for “types” of baby who remind them of family/friends. There are definite physical “types”. A lot of people on here love the more angelic/perfect Sacha Schrieber type….

This child looks so alert and sweet.

Manon on

Oh forgot to add I also love the “chubby smiley” type like Zuma Rossdale. He is just too sweet for words.

iluvallbabies on

Hmmmmm : “He’s not my fav/cutest but may grow into his looks”- I am all for freedom of speech, but imagine reading that line about your own flesh and blood? Im sure it wouldnt feel great hearing people basically saying your baby isnt very attractive (and come on- thats what you were impying).

Maybe Im being one of those over sensitive types this morning- its just strikes me as a little mean to take a shot at a 6 month olds looks!?

Meg on

What does “not my favorite celebrity baby” mean exactly? Some people are saying it with the “little old man” thing and it almost sounds like an insult, like those saying it think that he’s not a cute baby. I thought that you weren’t supposed to say stuff like that if you wouldn’t say it to their face. I don’t think you’d go up to Ashlee Simpson and say “Bronx isn’t my favorite celebrity baby, he’s definitely not the cutest”. You wouldn’t want anyone to say it to you. I don’t want to take it the wrong way but it doesn’t sound like a nice term to use.

Personally I think Bronx is a total cutie, and if I didn’t think he was I wouldn’t say anything.

Marlena on

Cute baby, but I always wonder whats going on in parents heads when their baby is wearing less clothes than them. I mean seriously if you need a jacket and hat surely baby needs at least the same. Maybe I’m just being picky.

iluvallbabies on

100% agree with you Meg- I think we were writing at the same time!!

Brooklyn on

Aww! Bronx is seriously one of the cutest babies ever!

Amanda on

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. This is a celebrity blog where people comment on the pics they look at. Relax…

Manon on

I agree that saying “not my fave celeb baby” is a little immature.

Apart from being unkind, it’s silly because a) babies’ looks change so much anyway and b) who cares if it’s not your favouriate celebrity baby???

Amanda on

Personally I think Bronx is a total cutie, and if I didn’t think he was I wouldn’t say anything.

And that is you. So…you wouldn’t comment if you didn’t think he was cute? But…you will put other people that post their honest opinion here down? *shakes head*

iluvallbabies on

Amanda the general rule on the blog (unless it has changed) was write only what you would feel comfortable saying to the persons face.

So would you go up to someone and say ” Your baby isnt the cutest but may grown into his looks”?

Amanda on

I will answer this and then I am moving on from this thread : )

Yes- I would feel comfortable stating my opinion to their face. Just cause they are celebrities does not mean I wouldn’t. Not that big of a deal to me. I’m entitled to my opinion. Just as you are : )

If there are guidelines stating I am not allowed to state my opinion then I would assume my posts would not be posted. Simple as that.

Manon on

Amanda: I think the key word is parents, whether celebrities or not.

Unkind and not necessary for people to say things like “not my fave child/not that cute”. That’s a silly adult thing!

Anyway, this little scrap is one of the sweetest looking children I’ve seen on here. Just gorgeous and intelligent looking.

Sam & Freya's Mum on

I’m with you Amanda, people all have opinions and I’ve seen many similar comments on other posts about others. Not saying that he’s ugly by any stretch by the way, that would be nasty and unfair to a 6mth old, just not a favourite but who knows as he gets older, which is what I was saying. By the way, everone probably has their fav celebrity baby/ies, as I’ve seen commented on numerous times, there’s nothing wrong with that, and I stand by my post too…

Sam & Freya's Mum on

I’m with you Amanda, people all have opinions and I’ve seen many similar comments on other posts about others. Not saying that he’s ugly by any stretch by the way, that would be nasty and unfair to a 6mth old, just not a favourite but who knows as he gets older, which is what I was saying. By the way, everone probably has their fav celebrity baby/ies, as I’ve seen commented on numerous times, there’s nothing wrong with that, and I stand by my post too…

Sam & Freya's Mum on

I’m with you Amanda, people all have opinions and I’ve seen many similar comments on other posts about others. Not saying that he’s ugly by any stretch by the way, that would be nasty and unfair to a 6mth old, just not a favourite but who knows as he gets older, which is what I was saying. By the way, everone probably has their fav celebrity baby/ies, as I’ve seen commented on numerous times, there’s nothing wrong with that, and I stand by my post too…

Sam & Freya's Mum on

I’m with you Amanda, people all have opinions and I’ve seen many similar comments on other posts about others. Not saying that he’s ugly by any stretch by the way, that would be nasty and unfair to a 6mth old, just not a favourite but who knows as he gets older, which is what I was saying. By the way, everone probably has their fav celebrity baby/ies, as I’ve seen commented on numerous times, there’s nothing wrong with that, and I stand by my post too…

Sam & Freya's Mum on

I’m with you Amanda, people all have opinions and I’ve seen many similar comments on other posts about others. Not saying that he’s ugly by any stretch by the way, that would be nasty and unfair to a 6mth old, just not a favourite but who knows as he gets older, which is what I was saying. By the way, everone probably has their fav celebrity baby/ies, as I’ve seen commented on numerous times, there’s nothing wrong with that, and I stand by my post too…

Moore on

What people have written here is tame. Incredibly tame and doesn’t even need such a reaction. You’re on a blog where people are free to state what they think about whats posted. I agree with amanda. If it were deemed unacceptable it wouldn’t be posted. I do admit sometimes its too ridiculous to not respond but in this case people could have said worse than “he’s not my favorite celeb baby”. Honestly he’s not mine either but I don’t really have any so…

I have no problem stating how I feel about something. I wouldn’t walk up to you and start talking about your child but if you ask me what I think, yeah I’ll tell you honestly and tactfully. I also couldn’t care less about whats written or said about the way my family looks. I’m not one to get all up in arms about something so small and thats bound to change especially when they’re young.

I think this little guy resembles an old man. Thats not a bad thing either.

Sam & Freya's Mum on

..besides CBB wouldn’t have posted comments if they were going too far, I assume…It does say above as I type this ‘feel free to agree or disagree with each other as long as you do it respectfully. We all have our own experiences and perspectives etc…’ and I am aware other people on the other end reading it, wasn’t being rude, just expressing my perspective – just as you are entitled to every one else is entitled to their own opinion, I wasn’t be personal back saying it was wrong, all subjective anyhow, just agreeing with Amanda’s post.

Sam & Freya's Mum on

..besides CBB wouldn’t have posted comments if they were going too far, I assume…It does say above as I type this ‘feel free to agree or disagree with each other as long as you do it respectfully. We all have our own experiences and perspectives etc…’ and I am aware other people on the other end reading it, wasn’t being rude, just expressing my perspective – just as you are entitled to every one else is entitled to their own opinion, I wasn’t be personal back saying it was wrong, all subjective anyhow, just agreeing with Amanda’s post.

Sam & Freya's Mum on

..besides CBB wouldn’t have posted comments if they were going too far, I assume…It does say above as I type this ‘feel free to agree or disagree with each other as long as you do it respectfully. We all have our own experiences and perspectives etc…’ and I am aware other people on the other end reading it, wasn’t being rude, just expressing my perspective – just as you are entitled to every one else is entitled to their own opinion, I wasn’t be personal back saying it was wrong, all subjective anyhow, just agreeing with Amanda’s post.

Sam & Freya's Mum on

..besides CBB wouldn’t have posted comments if they were going too far, I assume…It does say above as I type this ‘feel free to agree or disagree with each other as long as you do it respectfully. We all have our own experiences and perspectives etc…’ and I am aware other people on the other end reading it, wasn’t being rude, just expressing my perspective – just as you are entitled to every one else is entitled to their own opinion, I wasn’t be personal back saying it was wrong, all subjective anyhow, just agreeing with Amanda’s post.

Sam & Freya's Mum on

..besides CBB wouldn’t have posted comments if they were going too far, I assume…It does say above as I type this ‘feel free to agree or disagree with each other as long as you do it respectfully. We all have our own experiences and perspectives etc…’ and I am aware other people on the other end reading it, wasn’t being rude, just expressing my perspective – just as you are entitled to every one else is entitled to their own opinion, I wasn’t be personal back saying it was wrong, all subjective anyhow, just agreeing with Amanda’s post.

iluvallbabies on

I was more pointing out the comment “He is not my fav/cutest but may grow into his looks”. I totally stick by my post too- I find it rude & un-neccesary. Im glad Im not in your circle of friends if you think that is a fine thing to say to ANYONE (celeb or not) about their 6 month old baby!

Amanda on

come on. do you need to honestly be that down on someone for their OPINION? on a more real level – i like some kids more than others that my kids play with. So what? Am I not entitled to state that opinion? you are putting down on someone posting their opinion (which is not advised in the guidelines) and feel your opinion is the righteous one?! no. that is not okay. why is your post how it is? it doesnt work that way. sorry. dont call someone silly simply because they express themselves. its ignorant.

Amanda on

How is that different than the comments on his name that some made? I notice no one commented on that. They are all just opinions.

Dahlia on

He’s not a cute baby, sorry, but its true. People need to stop being so sensitive. Not every baby is cute, and we don’t have to lie and say they all are. I am entitled to my own opinions, just as you are, and I don’t find Bronx to be particularly attractive. I’m sure you’ve all called someone ugly before, so don’t be hypocritical, and if you didn’t say someone was ugly out loud, then you’ve surely had a negative thought passing through your mind about someone’s appearance. You’re a liar if you say you haven’t.

Amanda on

Everyone on here should be named Amanda : ) That way no one could point fingers or argue : ) LOL Lets dumb it down a little ;-)

Meg on

Amanda, you said you’re stating your opinion on it and I’m stating mine. My opinion is that I find it a little unthoughtful to say that about any child. Not that I’m saying it’s a terrible, awful thing (after all, there are worse things to say) but that I do not agree with it. And hey, you know what, if you are OK with saying something like that to a persons face, then feel free to say it. I just said that I WASN’T SURE if it was an insult or not and if it was that I was uncomfortable with it personally.

Apparently it is an insult (since that’s all I asked originally) if you all are getting so defensive about it. If I love the picture or the outfit on the child then I’ll say something but other then that I was brought up on “if you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say anything at all”, you know? That’s all I’m saying.

Cathryn on

Just because we have the ability to express our opinions does not mean that we should always do so because it can really hurt someones feelings and you don’t know what the impact will be on them. He’s a six month old baby! What if his mother read those comments? Perhaps those comments are something you could say to a friend in private if you really felt it but don’t post it to a blog! What’s that old saying, if you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say anything at all!

I’ll say something positive, I think he’s darn cute!

Kate on

“Bronx Wentz” just does not sound good or “flow” together.! I can’t tell who baby Bronx looks like! I see a lot of both of them.

iluvallbabies on

How many Amandas are there?!? I thought the original Amanada was moving on from this thread? Confused.

Alex on

I haven’t read a single comment that I would consider unacceptable. If people don’t think Bronx is “cute”, I think they are entitled to say that. Really, this blog is very tame compared to some. I don’t mean to single certain families out, but for purposes of illustrating my point, some of the things I have read about Sadie Sandler and Max Bratman have been 100 times worse than anything written here, either in this thread or any other. As long as people aren’t abusive or rude for the sake of being rude, I just don’t think there’s a case to answer. I’m sure lots of comments don’t get through the moderation, which proves that there is a good system in place here that other sites and blogs don’t have.

Children do change so much as they grow up, in the next couple of months, Bronx could theoretically be entirely different. I still think he looks like a Wentz baby, but give it time and I’ll probably think he looks like a Simpson. If I thought either of those didn’t equal “cute” (which I don’t), that doesn’t mean I think the baby is ugly.

iluvallbabies on

Dahlia- I have NEVER said a 6 month old baby is UGLY- not even in my head. Those are some ugly words coming out of your mouth though!

Jane on

How can some people be so mean to say he is not cute… I mean, come on, people grow up– you don’t say that!! Anyway, what a precious angel he is and so cute… look at those deep beautiful eyes- they are gorgeous and a lovely shape, and those chubby arms, and cute little mouth… I think he is adorable!

Tomy on

whatever some people say, Bronx is cute for me! I love him!

Doreen on

While I love Ashlee Simpson and I think Bronx looks like him….he isn’t the cutest celeb baby but I’m sure he’ll outgrow the look and surprise everyone as he gets older!

Meg on

Cathryn you make such a great point. Just because you have the ability to do so doesn’t mean you should. If it were someone like Melissa Joan Hart, who reads this blog all the time, would you say the same thing?

Also, sorry for the confusion if there are a bunch of Amanda’s, I was mostly talking to the one that posted at 4:55.

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All of the Amandas, except comment #3 and comment #75, are the same person, per email/IP address.

- CBB Staff

Amanda on

Why do you guys care so much? Some think he is cute and others kind of don’t. So what? Why does it matter? No one opinion or post is “right”. Whether Bronx is not so cute or cute is a matter of opinion. How can you change that? You can’t! You can’t force your opinion on someone or tell them they can’t say he is not their fav or that he looks like an old man. Its laughable that some are so upset. Why can you not be OK with people stating what they think?

Amanda on

Jane- Saw that pic and the updated one that is up now on Pete’s twitter page with his pants falling off. How does that change an opinion?

Meg on

I truly, honestly don’t see how he’s not cute. Even if that’s what your saying and we’re keeping at “everyone can have their own opinion”, I don’t see how he’s not adorable! I think he really is a sweet looking baby.

Amanda on

And I would really like to know how a baby can look intelligent? LOL

alice jane on

Everyone does have the right to express their opinions, although I do find it pretty unnecessary to make comments about how a baby “isn’t that cute”. But to each their own. Personally I think Bronx is adorable – I love the chubby babies with their chubby wrists and cheeks… It makes me think of my nephew. Who, by the way, was referred to by one person as funny-looking (and she didn’t mean that in a good way), while every other person who has encountered him thinks he’s adorable. You can’t expect everyone to find every baby cute; there’s nothing wrong with that, but is it really necessary to say it?

kate on

I think he’s cute, but he’s gonna have one heck of a nose.
I recall Ashley Simpson had a nose-job and Pete has pretty prodominant features as is, but I guess good strong features on a boy is a must and a great thing, as opposed to it being on a girl.

(I am ready for my ‘insensitivity lashes’)

Stephany on

Personally, I think Bronx is a seriously cute baby. But there are a few celebrity babies that I just don’t find very cute. I don’t post a comment saying “s/he’s not my favorite celebrity baby”. For me, that is just plain rude and I would never do that. People are definitely entitled to their own opinion but I really don’t think it’s something that needs to be said.

lala2 on

I think Bronx is a very cute baby. Everyone has a right to state their opinion. However, it just rude to call a 6-month old baby ugly. I don’t see it! He’s an adorable baby. I bet the people calling him “unattractive” is sight to see…………Remember, this is just my opinion…..

Moore on

If it were someone like Melissa Joan Hart, who reads this blog all the time, would you say the same thing?
– I don’t know about anyone else but my opinion doesn’t change just because I know someone is reading. You never know who ends up catching up on this blog so I don’t type things if I wont say it to their face.

Jane on

Amanda- what do you mean by “How does that change an opinion?”

I was just kidding that he would give that serious look to anyone who said something not very nice about him!

Rebecca on

I agree with alot of the comments here too. First of all, don’t like the name at all, and yes he is not the cutest of babies. Now Suri Cruise, OMG, when I first saw her pic, I fell in love with her looks and she is only getting prettier by the day and so is Shiloh Pitt. Absolutely adorable.

iluvallbabies on

Moore- you seem quite harsh in your comments. Imagine not caring about peoples feelings towards their new baby?! Like you said earlier, you wouldnt care if someone called your child unattractive. Im not sure if you have been brought up thinking this is ok, but Im sure majority of parents would NOT be fine with someone saying this about their child. Its common courtesy and manners you learn at a very young age.

As everyone keeps saying you are entitled to you opinion- just know that it reflects badly on you.

Meg on

Hey, more power to you then I guess, Moore. I could never say anything like that to someone because I would be devastated if somebody said it about my child. But hey, if you would go up to someone and say “your child may be able to grow into his looks” (as some others have said) then you are brave!

jessicad on

Hehe look at that chubby little wrist! I love it!

Terri on

Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, including the people that happen to disagree with yours.

Cute pics, CBB. Keep up the good work.

Terri on

Btw, I think the kid is adorable.

Mary-Helen on

Aw…I think he is such a cutie butt! Look @ his chubby little arms!

However, Pete seems very uncomfortable. Maybe it was his first time with Bronx on his own? I know some daddies get a little freaked out during their first “day out” with baby.

alice jane on

Mary-Helen, I think it’s probably that he’s got a bunch of shrieking paparazzi and flashing cameras in his (and his baby’s) face.

g!na on

My personal opinion is he looks like an old man! He reminds me of benjamin button! lol. He has an unique look!

SimplyBohemian on

Those Simpson’s must have some strong genes lol. God he is just way too cute! They seems like such wonderfully fun parents! Very kewl!

Amanda on

Does anyone else notice it looks like part of his hair has been shaved, in the shape of a T? It’s on his left side, close to his face.

I agree, he’s a cute chunky old man look-alike.

Liliana on

I agree that everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion but I can’t fathom going up to another parent and saying, “Congrats on the baby. I’m sure one day he/she will grow into his/her looks.”

Here’s a thought, if he’s not one of your “fav celeb babies”, skip over the post, find a child that is, and comment on them.

I have a feeling some people’s reactions would be different if these comments were being made about Shiloh, Suri, or Sasha.

Manon on

QUOTE: And I would really like to know how a baby can look intelligent? LOL UNQUOTE

Amanda (and “I luv babies” is right! weren’t you moving from the thread?!) I am not sure how a baby can look intelligent but somehow for me they can and this one does: very alert.

However, I DO know that posts can look very UNintelligent – starting with talking about how cute they think a baby is! Do people really need to have it spelt out that that’s just a silly and unkind thing to say?

J on

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

BTW, I personally think he’s adorable :)

Lis on

I have to agree that I think it is very rude (and quite sad) to call a BABY “not cute”. And I’m not even the sensitive type. I’m not saying I’m offened, but it just rubs me the wrong way…

I think it’s great to share opinions and have little debates, but talking about a BABY’s physical appearence just seems pretty low and shallow.

Anyway, I think Bronx is absolutely adorable! I’d take him as my own any day of the week ;) Oh, and I must add that I have yet to see a “not so cute” baby! Honestly, I think ALL babies are adorable!

Shannon on

Seriously, I have to give kudos to Amanda and the others who say they would walk up to a parent and have no qualms about telling them their baby “is not that cute” or “will grow into his looks”-you guys sure are brave!!!!! I know most parents who had someone say that to their face would probably be handing down a square punch to the nose!

Just because you have an opinion does NOT make it okay in our soceity to say it-it’s rude and offensive. Didn’t your parents raise you to understand that if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all? It’s people like this who make me realize why our country os going down the tubes-a lot of people have no respect or decency anymore.

Shannon on

That being said, I think he is an absolutely adorable little boy! I love the name, love the chub. love it all! I think the only thing Pete looks like is protective. You can tell by the way he’s holding Bronx close to him the he was just trying to get through the crowd of paps. Such a sweet little family!

Amy on

Seriously. All babies have some degree of cuteness.

Reality is some are cuter than others (that is life people, same as adults).

The way I see it, Angelina Jolie kids are gorgeous. Bronx is cute.

Moore on

I know most parents who had someone say that to their face would probably be handing down a square punch to the nose!”
– Talk about sensitive. If you’re so caught up on another person’s opinion that you’ll punch them cause they don’t like your child’s looks you may have other issues aboard. I’m not talking about you specifically Shannon just to people in general who would act that way. Maybe I’m one of the few who will take it this way but it’s only an opinion, say what you want, I’ll think what I want and we both move on. Big deal.

Didn’t your parents raise you to understand that if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all? .
– I wasn’t. We were raised to be honest and open when we needed or wanted to be. I know when to share my opinion and when not to. I for one said I wouldn’t walk up to a family and tell them that (whats the point of that?) but if you ask and your kid is not the cutest I’m not going to lie to you. I have every right to tell you what I think when you ask me.

Moore on

I know most parents who had someone say that to their face would probably be handing down a square punch to the nose!”
– Let me go back and restate what I was saying in clearer manner in case anyone feels the need jump on it.
I find that if you’re going to hit someone over an opinion, you’re being sensitive. It’s fine if you’re offended and say so but to actually hit someone over something nonfactual, sorry thats being sensitive. I don’t mean that all parents are sensitive when someone calls their kid funny looking.

lizzielui on

Of course parents are going to be sensitive if you call their child funny looking or not cute. Their child is something that they created, something that they have unconditional love for so yeah jokes about their child or off color remarks about how “he/she isn’t that cute yet,” are going to hit a nerve. It’s common sense. Again, of course everyone is entitled to their opinion but at the same time people are entitled to let you know if they think your opinion is rude, offensive and uncouth. Why steal someone’s joy about their new baby? What is the point of that? Why be stuck on the right to voice your opinion when it could clearly hurt someone’s feelings and make them uncomfortable? Sometimes falling back and keeping one’s opinion to one’s self is the logical thing to do. Further, if you notice the people who are claiming that others are rude for making less than flattering comments about children are not the only sensitive ones. The sensitive nerves are being hit both ways, because those who are making said comments are wasting no time being upset and outraged that someone else finds them to be rude. If you put your opinion out there in the public sphere and really don’t care about how others characterize you based on that opinion then why be upset if someone calls you rude? I say you are rude, you say the baby is not cute. What is the big deal then, if no one she be “sensitive” about another’s opinion?

Sarah K. on

Lizzielui, I couldn’t have said it better myself. All those who are “expressing their opinions” needs to accept the fact that everyone else has an equal right to disagree with those opinions. In fact, if you are making your opinion publicly known, you should fully expect that others will do the same. In your opinion (Moore and Amanda), Bronx isn’t cute. In my opinion, calling out a defenseless baby on their physical appearance is unnecessary, shallow, and tacky.

Amanda on

Sorry for the confusion yesterday with posts! I share a computer with other women and am not the only one that reads this site(and posts) at this house. We are all a bit addicted ;-) And had all read the thread. That said…

I have let my post/opinion go and have moved on : ) I respect all of your opinions and was gratfeul to express mine.

Thanks!

Moore on

iluvallbabies – Really? You find it harsh that I would tell someone the truth if they asked? I can’t imagine hanging around with people who have a problem hearing an answer they asked for. What you may be thinking is that I’ll jump up and tell them the child is ugly. Never said that. But will I say its the cutest when its not? No. I don’t expect or want people to lie to me about what they think of my child if I asked and I can honestly tell you if someone walked up and said my child was ugly my reaction would be- “and?” An opinion is an opinion and I have the right to reject it.

lizzielui – in my rephrase I stated that if you’re going actually hit someone for stating an opinion about your child then I find you to be too sensitive. I never said they couldn’t feel that way but I think its over the top to hit someone for something like that. I have no problem being called rude nor do I have a problem with someone disagreeing. Go ahead.

sarah K – you may need to go back and look up my comment if you actually think I called the baby ugly. I said “I think this little guy resembles an old man. Thats not a bad thing either.” so you can keep your “unnecessary, shallow, and tacky” comment to yourself.

Patrice on

Cute! Bronx looks just like Ashlee before all the plastic surgery. I’m not saying that at all in a derrogatory way, but it IS the truth.

lizzielui on

Moore,

First of all, Ashlee and Pete never asked any of us if their child was cute. But even if they, or anyone else were to ask that question I still don’t see the point in stealing someone’s joy and taking them down a couple of notches by making “snide” and “honest” comments just so you can exercise your truth. You mentioned if your friend asked you this question you would tell the truth. Again, we differ on our views in this because I would never want to make my friend feel bad and uncomfortable just because I didn’t share in their opinion about the attractiveness of their baby. Like, once something like that comes out of my mouth, how is my friend supposed to feel? Yes, I am entitled to my opinion of course but like I said before I know when my opinions can sometimes be hurtful and unwarranted so I often use discretion when I give them. And while I agree that hitting someone over the head for a comment is way over the top, I do understand where the sentiment and level of outrage would come from if someone were to verbally mock my child. The anger and outrage is there, but that doesn’t mean most would act on it. Furthermore, I think the comments about people hitting someone in response to “you baby isn’t that cute” were very tongue and cheek and not serious at all.

Moore on

lizzielui, I can’t help it if you feel that my saying someone’s child resembles a “little old man” is snide and take that to be negative. I don’t and am not the only one who doesn’t think so.

Do note that I have always said ‘if someone was to ask me.” keyword, if. But on a blog, I can and do state my opinion just like some of you think he’s cute and some of us think he looks like a little old man.

Furthermore, I think the comments about people hitting someone in response to “you baby isn’t that cute” were very tongue and cheek and not serious at all. – Obviously but like I said if someone were to actually do that I would consider it over the top.

You mentioned if your friend asked you this question you would tell the truth. Again, we differ on our views in this because I would never want to make my friend feel bad and uncomfortable just because I didn’t share in their opinion about the attractiveness of their baby. Like, once something like that comes out of my mouth, how is my friend supposed to feel?
– I could be reading that wrong but you would just about lie to spare their feelings? That is not my kind truth. There are ways to speak to someone without having to disregard your own opinion and without putting them down while doing so. Like I said before if they are asking if I think the child is cute, I’m going to answer but don’t assume I would goes as far as to call their child ugly.

Sarah K. on

Moore, the word “ugly” never appeared anywhere in my post, so no I didn’t accuse you of calling Bronx ugly. I was speaking more generally about your willingness to tell a parent that their child isn’t cute. But, if you actually don’t have a problem with people thinking you’re rude, then go for it. Your loss, not mine.

Carie on

Wow. Just Wow. I am a mother and I am teaching my child to be respectful and kind to other people. Not to judge them when they don’t even know them and even if they come to not like that person to still be respectful. At 6 years old he makes innocent comments about people such as “He is funny looking.” “He/She has a strange looking face.” “They eat weird.” and so on. I tell him that I understand that he is thinking that BUT to not tell the person that because that could hurt their feelings and upset them. We basically just talk it out and come to an understanding that words can be hurtful whether they are his opinion or not. I think what upsets me about some of these posts and some posts on others is the fact that the parents of this child that people are making not so nice comments about can come and read this. And whether you like it or not it could/would be hurtful to them. I showed a picture of my son to someone the other day and this random dude tells me that my son looked like a Hippie Freak just because he was wearing a tie dyed shirt for a school function and a blue mohawk. That was just plain disrespectful to me as a parent and my son. Yes I have thought a kiddo was not as cute as another but am I going to go up to that child and his/her parents and say “Yo, your kid is not cute”. Not no, but Heck no. I am a grown up and I realize that words can hurt people. Done and done!

lizzielui on

Just because a person does not use the word ugly (which I never accused anyone of using here) does not mean that others are not aware of the fact that is actually what someone is trying to say. I guess I do value someone else’s feelings over my opinion when it comes to certain subjective situations like aesthetics and the look of one’s child because I know how biting and hurtful some negative opinions can be. Again, I just don’t see the point in being blunt about my opinion of a child’s looks to their mother. Yes there have been times in which I have thought a person’s child needed a little time to grow into their looks and therefore be cute by MY STANDARDS, but I just don’t feel the need to project that opinion onto another parent. (And I have to say I have never had a parent ask me that question, nor have I as a mother ever asked it.) In the end, I would rather be respectful and have my friends leave my presence with some dignity rather than be candid just for the sake of my truth about looks. Now, if this were a more serious, life/death/someone’s well being is at stake topic then of course I would be truthful. But looks? About a child? Nope. Still, as with any situation… if you want to put your opinion out in the public sphere then you have to be prepared for the good and bad responses that come with it. That includes and irate or sensitive mother who is in none too happy about harsh words towards their child. Yeah someone may say, “Well people shouldn’t be so sensitive” while another person might say, “Well what do you exepct? People shouldn’t be so void of tact.” And I mean that last statement in general, not just here in this situation.

Moore on

lizzielui, I said there are ways to speak to someone without having to disregard your own opinion and without putting them down while doing so all the while being honest.

This is an example of my “blunt” “negative” opinion when asked:

freind: “hey isn’t my child just the cutest ever?”
me: if I don’t I’ll more than likely say
she has such cute eyes (if they are) or
she looks like mom, dad, grandma, sibling or whoever (if they do) or
your baby has so much curly/red/dark hair (if they do) or
he looks like a little old man (cause some babies do)

And if they’re really fishing for an answer to just how cute I think their child is and I don’t, my answer would be “looks like so-and-so” if they do. Take that how you want. If you don’t think so-and-so is cute then I can’t help you there. That is your child and my opinion.

Wow!! Thats so blunt and harsh and negative and rude it’s a wonder my friends aren’t emotional cripples after chatting with me. I could go on with what I could say and have said to a parent but notice I never lied, never said anything to hurt the mother’s feelings, never insulted the child though you can take the last as an insult if you want, and I didn’t go as far as calling the child ugly. I said exactly as I wanted without disregarding my opinion on the child.

That is nowhere near the extreme you or anyone else was taking it to. Again, If you’re going to ask I’m going to tell you but just because I say exactly as I intend doesn’t mean it will always be negative, doesn’t mean I don’t have tact and doesn’t mean that feelings are not considered.

Amanda on

Moore- I LOVE you! That’s all. Thanks : )

Moore on

Aw <3 Amanda (whichever one you are, hehehe j/k) I'm feeling the love! Just don't hit me if I say your baby resembles a little old man. I swear thats not a bad thing! :)

Amanda on

It’s me! My sisters are living with me too right now ( tried to be vague in my post above) and it can be crazy around here…as you can imagine! Anyhoo…I know yesterday they posted too, but this is ME. Just wanted to send you some love. You rock girlie : )

CelebBabyLover on

Lis- I agree! I’ve never met a baby that isn’t cute! :)

charlie on

He is a lil cutie! Pete seems to be a good daddy. I dont get what the fuss is about, everyone has their own opinion, and mine is that Bronx is one of the most good looking baby boys I have seen. :)

SouthernBelle on

Bronx definitely looks like the Simpsons, IMO. It’s amazing, though, how babies change as they grow and traits you never noticed before suddenly emerge. But, so far, I see so much of a resemblance to the Simpsons and I think I see Ashley’s chin on Bronx. I love chubby little baby rolls! So cute.

Amanda on

Hey all…I had to dig wayyy back for this thread. I just wanted to post that since writing my comments I saw two shows…one of which was about terminally ill children and one was about disfigured children. Wow… HUGE reminder that all children are beautiful and deserve nothing but love and building up. Just wanted to post this for myself actually. Never again will I post that a child is anything less than beautiful.

Doreen on

Remember that Seinfeld episode where everyone knows the baby isn’t cute but they still called him ‘gorgeous’ or ‘beautiful’. That was hilarious! I know I wouldn’t tell Ashlee or anyone to their face that their baby wasn’t cute. All in all, people do have the right to their opinions.

krissylu on

I think he is absolutely adorable! He is nice and chubby and makes you want to snuggle him.

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