Tori Spelling Raves About Baby Nurse

05/14/2009 at 01:00 PM ET
Courtesy Cookie Magazine

While some moms might feel threatened by the closeness their children share with a nanny, Tori Spelling instead feels gratitude.

“I never understood being competitive with a nanny,” she tells the June/July issue of Cookie magazine. “If you have someone you trust and who loves your kids, then what an amazing thing you’ve done for them.” Tori’s kids Liam Aaron, 2, and Stella Doreen, 11 months, have Patsy. “[She is] a baby nurse to them and like a mother figure to me,” Tori explains.

In fact, Tori views her unplanned pregnancy with Stella as a sign that Patsy was meant to stay on with their family longer. Tori also makes it a point to tell her kids about her own nanny growing up.

“I have this little bear that was Nanny’s, and I always bring it when I fly. I recently showed it to Liam and explained that the bear is like a grandparent who looks out for us. He grabbed it and kissed it.”

Spending two pregnancies very much in the public eye was eye-opening for Tori, 35, who says she frequently endured unsolicited belly rubs from strangers. “I would never do that to a pregnant woman — it’s a personal thing,” Tori says. “And if I did, I’d say, ‘Your belly is so cute, can I touch it?'” When fans would approach, however, they were not as considerate. “I couldn’t say, ‘Please don’t touch,’ because then it would be ‘What a bitch!'” she laments. “At a certain point, I just decided that Stella was getting a lot of love in there.” Unfortunately, her belly was fair game postpartum as well!

“After I’d given birth to Stella, some woman at the market grabbed my belly and asked when I was due. When she had the flab in her hand, she realized her mistake.”

Click below to read about Tori’s ‘mama’s girl.’

The paparazzi were equally fixated. “The first time I went out after I had Liam…I remember trying to hold my stomach in, even though my muscles were shot to hell, because it’s not like they want a story, ‘Look at the happy couple, they just had a baby,'” Tori says. “They want, ‘Do you see her stomach? We thought she already had the baby.'” Tori keeps her perspective by reminding herself “the weeklies build you up to tear you down.” To that end, she notes:

“It’s a funny cycle. The week before they were asking, ‘Is she too thin?’ they showed a picture of me in a bikini on the beach saying I looked great.”

The upside of celebrity, however, is the ability to provide memories for Liam and Stella that many moms can only dream of. For Christmas, Tori and husband Dean McDermott rented a snow machine — not unlike the snow Tori’s late father Aaron Spelling had trucked in one Christmas for her as a child. “As much as I wanted to be normal, as I look back, those big gestures were pretty amazing,” she says. “So we hosted an event for the Ronald McDonald House Charities and had real snow in our yard.”

“It was very wink-wink-nudge-nudge about my white Christmas when I was a kid. I had this vision of it being sunny Los Angeles with sledding, but it was rainy and muddy, and we had to put up a tent. The kids didn’t care, though. Liam was hesitant, but we got him on a sled a few times.”

As for Stella, Tori says “it turns out that [she] is a total mama’s girl.” When she learned that she was going to welcome a daughter, Tori admits that she was afraid given the rocky relationship she shares with her own mom Candy Spelling. Fortunately, her fears were unfounded. Tori adds,

“Without my even trying, Stella wants her mama. When she is in Dean’s arms, she lunges for me the way Liam did for him.”

Source: Cookie, June/July issue

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allison on

She use to call her nanny, nanny? Did she not have a first name? I find that very rude and strange.

kai on

I find her persona very strange.

Marcie on

I called one of my grandmothers Nanny until she died, and I know of others that have that nickname for their grandmothers. Maybe that is the kind of relationship Tori had with her nanny.

Lis on

Liam looks like a little old man in the picture!! LOL! He is such a cutie!

XOXO on

Calling her nanny ‘Nanny’ reminds me of the movie, The Nanny Diaries…LOL

Anyway, how sad that she told Liam that the teddy bear her nanny gave her is like a ‘grandparent’ I really hope her and her mother can just put everything behind them for the children sake. How bad was her mother to her that she cant forgive her? I mean she is her mother! I am so close to my mom that I dont understand their situation. Also, she wanted a ‘normal’ life growing up? come on get over it and move on and be happy with the good things you had and have.

Liam and Stella are adorable.

Angi on

People will say and have said nasty comments about her but it is VERY apparent that she adores her children. It may not be how we would live our lives, but what whatever works for her.

stedine on

If a child wants to call their Nanny by the name “nanny” then let them. She calls her children’s Nanny Patsy which I would guess is her first name and proper thing for an employer to do.

Marcie

The person above you was referring to the quote about Tori calling her hired Nanny as a child “Nanny”. LOL. It is her position. At 22 I still call my mother “Mommy” and am never going to call her “Mom” because I’ll never be that cool.

Jane on

“Calling her nanny ‘Nanny’ reminds me of the movie, The Nanny Diaries”

It reminds me of Muppet Babies.

That whole touching people’s pregnant stomach’s thing drives me crazy. It’s so rude. I operate on the policy of “If you wouldn’t do it if a baby isn’t involve, then you shouldn’t do it just because there is a baby there” – so if you wouldn’t normal touch someone’s stomach then you have no buisness touching it just because they’re pregnant.

D on

Maybe she didn’t want to disclose the nanny’s name in the interview. Some people don’t want to have a public life like that.

I agree, she seems to love her little babies so much. I am not a fan of hers but I hate the way every little thing she says gets picked over.

denise on

how can people complain how tori spelling called her nanny as a child? if she was introduced to her being “nanny” she most likely kept it that way. my friends who had nannies also keep using the names they used when being a child, as someone mentioned it’s the same like calling you mom “mommy” (or in german “mama”) as you always did.
i find it rather annoying how people always attack tori spelling. i don’t know her personally but what i’ve read so far the appears to be a great and caring mother.

babyboopie on

If a lot people don’t like her, including myself, it must be for a reason, and people are entitled to their own opinion on here, so the good comes with the bad, doesn’t it?

Lila on

She is a doll and obviously adores her kids (take note Kate Gosselin). She is with them almost all the time and really seems to love being a mommy. I am reading Mommywood and it is just as sweet and funny as sTori Telling.

Jane on

“People will say and have said nasty comments about her but it is VERY apparent that she adores her children.”

Lots of people love their kids. That doesn’t mean every parenting decision they make is a good one. She’s made some quesitonable life and parenting decisions, and the fact that she seems to love her kids (which, by the way, it’s not very apparent to me from pictures and the book she wrote – it’s just not possible to tell whether someone loves their kids from pictures or a book) doesn’t change that. Loving your kids does not negate every bad decision you make in regards to those kids.

Dianna on

I think she’s calling her “Nanny” as a term of endearment. Her own mother wasn’t there for her and she couldn’t call the nanny “mom or mother” so maybe she took to using the name “Nanny” as a special name.

lala2 on

Well, well, well…. Here comes JANE, from Child Protective Services.

Ha, your comments about Tori always makes me LOL……

She LOVES her kids! Gimme a break!

Jane on

“Well, well, well…. Here comes JANE, from Child Protective Services.”

It’s really sad that you are unable to express your point of view like a grown-up. We’re all adults here, so it’s beyond me why some people can’t seem to get their point across without resorting to petty little comments.

ang on

her nanny’s name was margaret and she died i think,late 2003 or early 2004,definitely before tori’s 1st wedding. she was probably conditioned to call her nanny since she was old enough to talk, and says in stori telling that for the longest time she thought nanny was her name and didn’t realise it was a job. i know my mum’s name but im 27 and i still call her mum. no big deal. i love the magazine cover it’s too cute! it makes me sad to listen to people try to say she wouldn’t die for those kids. it’s abhorrent and i hope tori doesn’t see this page. opinion, schminion, it’s rude and disgusting to infer that sort of thing.

Jessica on

Im curious as to what the poor parenting choices Tori made that you’re talking about. I think she seems like a great mom. a Heck of a lot better than Kate Gosselin. I live near her and you people wouldn’t believe what she’s really like! It’s funny how people blindly put someone on a pedestal….

Jane on

“Im curious as to what the poor parenting choices Tori made that you’re talking about.”

1. Putting them on a reality show. 2. Writing a tell-all book about them. 3. Dragging them to book signings and red carpet events where there are tons of flashbulbs going off in their faces. 4. Insulting her stepsons mother in both books.
5. Publicly airing her feud with her mother all over the place.

“it makes me sad to listen to people try to say she wouldn’t die for those kids.”

I’m not sure why you’re making the leap about dying for her kids, since no one mentioned anything about that. All I’ve said is that I think she’s made some bad parenting decisions. A person can love their kids and still not be a good parent to them, it isn’t a mutually exclusive thing. And I don’t care one way or the other if she reads this. She’s choosing to air her personal life in order to make money, which makes her personal life fair game for discussion. I don’t air any negative opinions on this board about celebrities who chose to keep their private lives private – because in that case, it’s none of my business. But when someone is selling their personal life for profit then they’re choosing to make it everyone else’s business.

Jas on

If the Nanny didn’t mind being called Nanny then I think it’s ok. I don’t think Tori was being disrespectful. Not only that, she talks of her nanny pretty fondly…well at least I haven’t say anything mean about her nanny.

Jas on

Correction: I haven’t heard Tori say anything mean about her nanny.

JMO on

Not that I agree with Tori dangling her children infront of the media all the time but she is far from being a neglectful parent. Please how about focusing on all the abused and neglected children in the world! These kids are not in any real danger other then having to workin parents who happen to be in the spotlight.

And I can’t stand touching pregnant bellies. First I would never ask and secondly when I’m asked I still feel odd putting my hand on someone else’s tummy. But I will if it’s a close friend or relative if I’m given permission. But it still feels like I’m over stepping my boundaries lol.

TracyG on

*****1. Putting them on a reality show. 2. Writing a tell-all book about them. 3. Dragging them to book signings and red carpet events where there are tons of flashbulbs going off in their faces. 4. Insulting her stepsons mother in both books.
5. Publicly airing her feud with her mother all over the place.
******

1. How is she different from any other celeb who has a reality show with their family in it? Reverend Run? The Gosselins, The Roloffs? and MANY more. Try again…

2. Her book was about being a MOMMY, not a tell all about the kids. Did you even read it? Again, many other celebs have done the same thing.

3. Not to be redundant, but again, how is that different from any celeb at any event with THEIR children? If she left them at home, it would be “How mean is Tori..she doesn’t even bring her kids out!” The book signings she explained that she wants her family with her because she likes to have them around her. What a witch! *rolls eyes*

4. She never insulted Mary Jo in her books. I just finished Mommywood and she was very respectful of MJ and of Jack. She talked about MJ in one chapter and said how she met with her and hoped they could get along for Jack’s sake and Dean’s as well. Wow, yeah, what an insult!

5. Her feud with her mother has been brought out by the MEDIA. Tori only answered questions about it after Aaron died. And forgive me, but Candy seems like a nasty person to have as a mother and SHE HERSELF is writing a “tell all” book about Tori – her DAUGHTER..but is THAT okay?

Jane, it seems you have a real hatred for this woman and are looking for any excuse to bash her. Opinons are one thing but you know the old saying -“Opinions are like buttocks, everyone has one?” It seems fitting here.

You don’t like other people criticsizing your opinion, but you seem to like dishing it out.

Jane on

TracyG:
1. What do you mean try again? She’s exploiting her kids. The fact that there are other celebrity exploiting their kids does not erase the fact that she’s also doing that. And what makes you think that I don’t also have a problem with the other celebrities who are putting their kids in reality shows? For the record, I think the other people you mentioned are also exploiting your kids, so I don’t know why you’re saying “Try again” as if I’m somehow holding Tori to standards that I’m not holding other celebrities to.
2. Yes, I did read her books, both of them. And yes it was about being a Mommy, that’s my point, she wrote a book where she used her kids to make money. And again, the fact that there are other celebrities who have done the same thing does not erase the fact that Tori has also done it.
3. No, actually it wouldn’t have. There’s nothing wrong with people leaving their kids at home when they’re at work, or in any other environment that is not appropriate for children.
4. I’ve read both books, and she did insult her.
5. Her feud with her mother was not brought out by the media. She wrote a tell-all book last year where she wrote about her troubled relationship with her mother, and then she wrote a second book this year where she again talked about her mother. She brought that into the spotlight, not the media.

No, I don’t have a hatred for this woman, I have a problem with her behavior. Is it really so inconceivable to you that there are people in the world who have a problem with someone: exploiting their kids, publicly insulting their husbands ex, publicing feuding with their mother, and flaunting their adultery? Is it so hard for you to imagine that there are some people who find that behavior disgusting, and not in any way deserving of praise? Those of us who have a problem with Tori have valid reasons for feeling that way.

And I have never had a problem with people criticizing my opinions. I have had a problem with people like lala throwing tantrums all over the comments section just because I don’t agree with her.

kai on

I happen to agree with Jane, actually, but I found this particular article on Tori actually just sad.

Jessica, I had to laugh at the K. Gosselin comparison. I have just heard about these people five minutes ago (what the hell…) and to say anyone is at least better than them – now that’s a compliment;)What I read sounded positively insane. would love to hear your “inside” stories, but it’s off-topic here, I guess:/

N.S on

Hmmmmmm.

It’s great that she is happy with her situation, but – what does it say to you that she and her mother do not talk, have no connection or bond to eachother, but yet she still has great feelings of fondness for her old nanny growing up?

Does she want this for her kids future too?

L.J. on

Funny how people have sooo much time on their hands to be so critical of others. Leave Tori’s behavior alone. She lives in a totally different reality than ours so give the gal a break.

Emily on

Hmm…I never really got the “nanny” thing. But, I have a great mom that I have a great relationship with that I can call for advice any time and that my kids adore. Ditto for my MIL. I can see how since Tori does not have that relationship with her mom, having a person that she trusts is important.

And, wow, I still continue to be shocked at the level of rude, presumptuous comments people make in an ability to make themselves feel better. I don’t think any of us know for sure what goes on in people’s lives. It doesn’t matter how “near” to them you may or may not live (rolling my eyes). Get a life, people.

lis on

I think she puts her children in front of the media because that’s the way of life she knows. It was done to her as a child, she obviously doesn’t think it’s that strange or weird. One of the things I like about Tori is she is acutely aware of where she comes from, and that she’s had a different ride than most people.

I also think her viewpoint on the nanny is extremely wise. Love is love, all the more, all the better.

fuzibuni on

babyboopie said: “If a lot people don’t like her, including myself, it must be for a reason”

that’s what they said at the salem witch trials too.

get a life folks… don’t be so mean.

Anna on

I think it’s sweet to call the nanny “Nanny.” Kids call their grandparents “Grandma and Grandpa” and their parents “Mom and Dad.” I don’t really see a difference.

babyboopie on

Without sounding rude, Fuzibuni, nobody is being mean. We are just stating our opinion of Tori based on what we have seen and what she has said. Like I said, if people don’t like her (as there are quite a few if you read the comments on articles of her on this site)there must be a reason. It’s ridiculous to not like someone for no reason at all.

Jane on

“that’s what they said at the salem witch trials too”

Are you kidding me? You’re comparing having a problem with someone being an adulterer who exploits their kids and merely expressing that opinion in a comments section to persecuting someone in a way that led to them being burned at the stake? Wow. That’s quite a leap.

Angi on

Jane, can I ask? Do you have a job? A child? Something that needs your attention besides every Tori Spelling post on CBB?

Jane on

“Jane, can I ask? Do you have a job? A child? Something that needs your attention besides every Tori Spelling post on CBB?”

Not that how I use my time is any of your business, but yes, I do have things that occupy my time. Do you have something that occupies your time other than monitoring my comments and playing school marm?

lala2 on

People, we should stop responding to Ms. JANE….. It’s obvious that she hangs with Tori, and that she would know more about Tori than we will ever know.

Jane…..You should really team up with STAR magazine.

suzanne on

Jane-
You spend alot of time thinking about Tori Spelling, huh?

Rose on

“People, we should stop responding to Ms. JANE….. It’s obvious that she hangs with Tori, and that she would know more about Tori than we will ever know.

Jane…..You should really team up with STAR magazine.”

Lala: What’s your deal? You seem a bit obsessed with that other poster. It’s kind of creepy.

Sadie on

Back to Tori…
I, too, hope that Tori can eventually work things out with her mother, but I totally sympathize with her in that area. My husband and I have a very tempestuous relationship with his mom. She is a very passive-aggressive, toxic woman and we try very hard to reconcile with her when things get ugly, but yes, sometimes we need time out from her for our own sanity. More so now we have three small babies to look after. We just don’t have the time or energy for her crap! My guess is Tori feels the same way.
It seems to me that Tori has always had a bad relationship with Candy, and I think it’s brilliant she felt such unconditional love from a female influence in her life, even if it was her nanny. I’m sure Tori would give her right arm to have a loving and close relationship with her mom, but probably doesn’t feel it is possible at this time. She certainly tried after Liam was born, but obviously the two of them couldn’t make it work.
As for Jane’s comments – there is no way on this planet I would invite the public into my children’s lives and space. I wouldn’t care how much I was paid. However – I think there is no question that Tori loves those children with every fibre of her being. She was bought up in the public eye herself and it would all be very “normal” to her. To suggest Tori isn’t completely in love and devoted to those children is madness. She completely lights up when she talks about them.

Sheri on

Sadie, I agree with you completely! No one has any right to judge Tori’s relationship with her mom as none of us knows what really went on. I, too, had a very bad relationship with my mom and haven’t seen her in 15 years. It is the greatest heartbreak of my life, but my own pastor and a counselor agreed that my family was too toxic and abusive to be around anymore. Believe me, my husband and I are better off NOT being around them. So, I feel for Tori as I know how hard this has to be on her ~ but I also know that this doesn’t mean it is wrong that she doesn’t see her mother. There are extenuating circumstances to some things that we know nothing about. I pray she has a close, loving relationship with Stella and Liam her whole life ~ that will be the best medicine to heal her wounded heart.

lala2 on

Rose…..Get a grip…..

I just find her comments a little creepy. Wow, I can’t express my opinion?

By the way, I am responding to her, just as you are responding to me. Now, I think it’s creepy that you are keeping up with my comments to the other poster….

Good night!

Becky on

Wow Jane – honestly…People are interested enough to want to know about her life and pay her for her life. If people want to pay her to know about her life then why the hell not?! I think you’re just jealous that no one is interested to pay you to know about your life.

Rose on

“By the way, I am responding to her, just as you are responding to me. Now, I think it’s creepy that you are keeping up with my comments to the other poster….”

The difference is that you’ve been doing this for weeks. I always read the Tori posts, and I notice that every time Jane responds you’re two steps behind, being hostile and shouting and her in all caps – and it makes you sound just as bad as her. And I find it disturbing – why do you care if someone else dislikes Tori Spelling?

Jane on

“I think you’re just jealous that no one is interested to pay you to know about your life.”

Actually Becky, I write a blog, where I get paid to write about my life (except I don’t air dirty laundry such as family fueds, or share with the world how many times I have sex per week, or exploit children to do it). And I’m also mature enough to realize that I’ve put my life out there, therefore other people are allowed to have an opinion about it, they’re allowed to like it or dislike it, and I don’t play the victim when people don’t like it. Because that’s the price I pay for putting my life out there for public comsumption – and that’s the price that Tori pays too. If she can’t take the heat then she’s more than welcome to keep her life private.

Melanie on

“Because that’s the price I pay for putting my life out there for public comsumption – and that’s the price that Tori pays too. If she can’t take the heat then she’s more than welcome to keep her life private.”

I love how you’re attacking Tori in that sentence as though she’s the one who personally insulted you. I’m pretty sure she knows what goes along with the territory (she is a Spelling after all and grew up in the public eye)…and you have every right to dislike her but I think there’s a difference between disliking someone and being disrespectful (this isn’t just directed at you Jane)..I think a lot of the people who post about Tori Spelling need to think about what they’re saying and whether they would ever want someone to talk about them that way…can’t we just leave it at a) you like Tori and think she’s a wonderful mom or b) you don’t agree with her parenting style and don’t like her as a person (from what you “know” about her) and therefore not comment?

Call me crazy but I just never understand when people feel the need to post negative things…didn’t your parents ever teach you “if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all?” I know ya’ll must like drama but I prefer not to judge and to speak positively…that’s just me though

CelebBabyLover on

Sadie and Sheri- I agree with both of you! I also want to point out that it’s hardly just Tori who’s discussed her feud with her mother and mentioned it in books. Candy has discussed the feud in public plenty, and she also has a memoir coming out, which talks about her relationship with Tori. If Tori shouldn’t talk about her feud with her mother, then Candy should be held to the same standard.

Tracy G.- As usual, I agree with you as well. I also understand what you were getting at when you mentioned the Rolaffs, Gosselins, and Runs. No, it’s not neccesarily right for Tori to have her kids on a reality show just because those families do. However, except for the Gosselins, those families don’t seem to get criticized nearly as much as Tori does (and notice how it’s only Tori that gets criticized for having her kids on a reality show. Uh, somehow I’m pretty sure that Dean was part of the decision to include the kids on the show.).

As for the “criticism” of Mary Jo, I haven’t read either book, but I’m guessing it’s probably one of those things where different people are going to view whatever Tori said about her in the books in different ways.

For example, whenever there’s a post about Rev. Run and his family here on CBB, they usually get praised left and right.

Jessica, RN on

I can understand a regular person using the term “baby nurse”, especially if that person heard it throughout their life. But when popular, widely read websites such as this one uses the term, I get irked.

Nurses work very hard for their degrees and licenses. The title “nurse” is actually a protected title in a lot of states and cannot be used by anyone who is not an RN or LPN. I think it is irresponsible for this site to use the term in the title of this post. It is disrespectful to nurses.

michelle on

Of course you can have a loving relationship with both your Mom and your Nanny. I did. I am so much better for having both of those women in my life. Not to mention my step-mother. It’s really like I have three mothers. And I am so thankful they get along so well. All three of them have made me who I am today. Loving a Nanny doesn’t mean you love your mother any less.

Erica on

I find many of these posts disturbing, and not because they aren’t all glowing endorsements of Tori Spelling. People need to respect that value judgments are not just negative, but positive; for every person irked by someone giving reasons for not like Tori, you are making the exact same type of judgment when you talk about how great you think she is. Instead of trying to stifle people’s opinions who don’t agree with you, why not just trust that CBB already has moderation in place and don’t need volunteers to tell other posters what and what not to say.

More on topic: I agree with pretty much everything Jane said. Nothing in this particular article rubbed me the wrong way, except for Tori’s repetitive complaint about paparrazzi intrusion. To this day her whining sounds silly as she continuously allows her family to be photographed/interviewed/filmed for reality shows and tabloid interviews.

Rachel-Jane on

I wrote a comment asking why some of the other comments about Tori and various commenters have been allowed through, but it wasn’t posted. Perhaps it was “completely unrelated to the post”…

So to get it on topic:

There is nothing wrong with Tori calling her nanny ‘Nanny’. She was using it as a term of endearment. And as for her ‘bad parenting’? Tori is hardly the first celebrity to use her children to further her career and no doubt will not be the last. To be fair to her she has lived her life in the spotlight and perhaps cannot conceive living another lifestyle when this is all she knows.

April on

Jessica, I believe Patsy is an LPN.

It’s sad that this post has become another bash tori fest, but I think she has some good points. I have a nanny that watches my two kids 30 hours a week while I’m at work and wouldn’t trade her for the world. It is true, you can never have too many people loving your children.

kai on

^^very well said!

jane, I also agree with you if that’s of any importance;)

Jane on

“I know ya’ll must like drama but I prefer not to judge and to speak positively…that’s just me though”

Actually Melanie, you’re judging with that statement. At least I can admit that I’m judging. I think it’s really funny that the people who are lecturing other’s about being nice and positive are mean, rude and negative while lecturing others.

I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with my opinion – in fact I welcome healthy debate, I think it’s a wonderful thing. But I do have a problem with the people on here who just can’t accept that other people have a right to opinions that are different from yours. If you like Tori then by all means express it – those of us who don’t have just as much right to express that too. It’s really sad that we’re on a site full of grown women and yet there’s a group of women who consistently trying to censor every person who doesn’t want to heap praise on celebrities. Grow up, not everyone is going to agree with your opinion.

Jane on

“jane, I also agree with you if that’s of any importance;)”

Thanks Kai. I appreciate you saying that.

Terri on

Always drama with Tori posts…

I enjoyed the interview, thanks CBB!

Di on

I am one of those people who is not a fan of Tori Spelling for a variety of reasons. I understand that Tori has a lot of fans who do not want read anything negative about her so you can skip this comment.

When I first saw the cover of the magazine, my first thought was once again Tori is exploiting her family for financial gain. Sometimes we forget that Tori is an actress and that is her job but it seems like for the past few years,Tori has spent most of her time talking about her private life on camera and in books and then wonders why she has no privacy. I guess when you do not have talent to fall back on, all you can do is sell your story and hope someone will buy it.

I do not think it is fair to blame Candy for her and Tori’s poor relationship. Candy is on good terms with Randy so maybe Tori is the problem.

Lastly, I know for a fact that Tori has said some pretty nasty things about Mary Jo that she probably omitted from her book. How do you insult a woman after having an affair with her husband. Tori referred to Mary Jo as ” a nasty ex-wife who writes a tell-all book” which is funny considering that it is Tori who has written two tell all books in addition to a reality show. In addition, she also said ” [Mary Jo] plays the victim card over and over . . . It’s pathetic bordering on lunacy. I hope for the sake of her children she gains some self respect”.The destruction of a family and a 10 year marriage is not something one can easily get over.

How anyone can be a fan of this woman I do not know.

melanie on

Jane-
I’m not judging you–it’s blatantly clear that you like drama…I mean, just go back and read your posts. And if you had read mine, you would have seen that I wasn’t just aiming my comment at you–I actually agree with you in the fact that some of the women who disagree with you were disrespectful to you…hence why I asked if your parents ever taught you (and everyone else) the saying “if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all” (which, by the way, I LOVE that you ignored because you clearly don’t have an answer for it)…and I also never said that you couldn’t have your opinion–but I did say you don’t need to be disrespectful (which you have been and you can’t deny that).

I also love that you mention “grown women” who can’t get along–why exactly does a grown woman, like yourself, feel the need to bash someone else? Answer me this question, honestly: Why do you feel the need to post a negative comment? If you don’t like Tori, why don’t you just skip over the posts about her?? It’s just common sense.

And next time, please read what I said if you want to comment back–because you pretty much took everything I said and twisted it.

April on

Jane,

Accoding to you, everyone should be able to state theor opinions, whether good or bad. What ever happened to “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all”? It seems to me that you like to make a habit out of judging Tori Spelling, but also anyone who disagrees with you.

Jane on

“hence why I asked if your parents ever taught you (and everyone else) the saying “if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all” (which, by the way, I LOVE that you ignored because you clearly don’t have an answer for it)…”

Melanie, you are judging, because it’s not blatantly clear that I like cause drama. What is blatantly clear is that I refuse to be bullied by people who want to censor whether or not other people can say they dislike Tori or her actions in this thread. I expressed by opinion in the beginnning and would have left it at that if I hadn’t been lectured by others that I don’t have a right to express that opinion – any time someone does that then I’m going to step in and defend myself. If others would stop trying to censor me then I would have no need to respond several more times after that. But some people can’t seem to grasp that other people have a right to express that they don’t like Tori or her behavior.

And I actually do have an answer for your question, I just didn’t see the point in responding to your post with a 6 or 7 paragraph response, but since you despereately want to me to answer, here goes: No, my Mother didn’t teach me that. She taught me that if you see someone doing something that hurts or exploits a child then I have a responsibility to speak up and voice my concern or else I’m just as responsible at the person whose actively hurting the child. She also taught me that it’s a very bad idea to blindly praise a celebrity, or overlook every wrong thing they do just because they’re rich and famous. She also taught me that I shouldn’t blindly agree with other people just because they’re trying to bully me into it, and that I should stand up for myself when others are telling me that I don’t have a right to express my opinion.

Jane on

“What ever happened to “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all”? It seems to me that you like to make a habit out of judging Tori Spelling, but also anyone who disagrees with you.”

April: As I stated in a previous post, I don’t believe in the approach of “if you can’t say anything nice…” I think it’s a dangerous attitude to take.

And I don’t judge those who disagree with me – I fully respect people’s right to like Tori. What I don’t respect, and what I will never go along with, is people telling me that I don’t have a right to express my views just because they’re not pro-Tori. That is the only thing I have ever expressed a problem with when it comes to people who have disagreed with my opinion.

April on

Jane,

Call it what you will, but it all seems a bit judgmental to me. And there are plenty of reasons why negative and critical opinions of others should stay to yourself. I personally do not want my children growing up and learning to crticize other people openly the way you do. I think children should learn to understand that people are different and that fact does not make anyone right or wrong or give anyone the ability to badmouth others because they are different from you. Which is exactly what you are condoning, whether you want to stand up and admit it or not.

Jane on

“Call it what you will, but it all seems a bit judgmental to me.”

Please show me anywhere on this thread, or this site in general, where I have told someone they are wrong for liking Tori or for expressing that. It’s never happened. I have only ever told anyone they were wrong when they were trying to tell me that I don’t have a right to express their opinion. I have just as much right to express my opinion against Tori as others have to express theirs in favor of her.

“And there are plenty of reasons why negative and critical opinions of others should stay to yourself.”

And you have ever right to make that decision for your life – and I will make the decision for my own. You don’t get to decide for me whether I’m going to express a negative opinion.

“I personally do not want my children growing up and learning to crticize other people openly the way you do”

Then by all means, raise your children that way. That’s certainly your right. And I will teach my children to speak out when someone does something to exploit or harm their child, and I will teach about the dangers of worshipping celebrities, and that exploiting children, committing adultery, bashing your husbands ex and publicly feuding with relatives does not suddenly become a good thing simply because someone is rich and famous.

“give anyone the ability to badmouth others because they are different from you. Which is exactly what you are condoning, whether you want to stand up and admit it or not.”

I’m not criticizing Tori because she’s different from me. There are celebrities all over this site who are different from me. I’m not criticizing all of them. Because this is not about her being different. This is about me being disgusted by a woman who not only commits adultery but flaunts, who cheats with another woman’s husband and then has the nerve to accuse the ex of being nasty and of playing the victim card, who exploits her children in order to make money, who publicly feuds with her mother and then later whines about having no privacy. I have a serious problem with her immorality, and I’m going to pretend like I don’t. And if you don’t like that, then that’s just too bad.

April on

Jane,

SO JUDGMENTAL, but yet you can’t even admit to it. Take a look back – everything you say is passing judgment about something. And I can honestly say that I hope my children never run into your children on a playground. I can only imagine that my children would end up crying because your children were critical of them because they didn’t like the color shirt my child was wearing (or something equally petty). If everyone thought like you, the world would be a very negative place. Do you enjoy being mean?

Jane on

“SO JUDGMENTAL, but yet you can’t even admit to it.”

Once again I ask: please show me the post where I told someone else that they didn’t have a right to like Tori or to express it? You can’t name one, because it didn’t happen. And I never said I wasn’t judging Tori, I am, and she deserves to be judged for the stuff she’s done. I said I wasn’t judgemental of other’s people’s right to like her – that was what you orginally accused me of being judgemental about.

“And I can honestly say that I hope my children never run into your children on a playground. I can only imagine that my children would end up crying because your children were critical of them because they didn’t like the color shirt my child was wearing (or something equally petty).”

Well April, if your children committed adultery and bragged about it or exploited another child, then I supposed my kids would express a problem with that. But I have never judged anyone over something petty like the color of their shirt. Please show me where I criticized Tori for something small like her clothes. I criticized her for her lack of morals, and her bad parenting decisions – maybe you consider it petty to be against adultery and exploiting children, but I don’t.

“Do you enjoy being mean?”

I’m not being mean. I’m expressing disgust over behavior that I consider immoral and wrong. Do you enjoy lecturing others about being negative while you’re being negative yourself? It’s hilarious to me that you’re telling me that I shouldn’t criticize others while you’re not only criticizing me but also defending a celebrity who goes around criticizing others. I’m confused as to why you’re defending a woman who bashed her ex in public and in a book, who bashes her mother all over the place, and yet at the same time you seem horrified that I’m criticizing others. Do you see a disconnect between those two things? I do.

melanie on

Jane, its actually funny that you consider Tori to be in that category of parents who “hurt their children”..its honestly really funny bc its so ridiculous…

and april, THANK YOU…someone with common sense, finally! I totally agree with everything you said

lala2 on

Rose…..why do you care what I do? Obviously, you are concerned with myself and Jane, to follow up on our comments to one another.

Please….I am so done with it.

Mariel on

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JANE, ITS REALLY CLEAR THAT YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE!!!

Jane on

Mariel: I’m not the one monitoring other people’s comments. That would be you.

I don’t know what it’s going to take to get you people to realize this, but I will never cave to your demands. I will continue to have my opinion, whether you think I have a right to it or not. And if you don’t like it, too bad.

Jane on

“Jane, its actually funny that you consider Tori to be in that category of parents who “hurt their children”..its honestly really funny bc its so ridiculous…”

Sarcasm is the refuge of a weak argument. I have yet to hear anyone tell me why I’m wrong without resorting to insults, sarcasm, lectures about how I should be nicer (ironically while you’re being rude), etc. None of those things do anything to negate my point – they don’t prove why I’m wrong, they only prove that you don’t have a strong case to make. It’s very telling. It makes it quite clear that my point is a very strong one.

LauraW on

Good grief. I came in here to read the comments on this post and I feel like I wandered onto an elementary school playground with all the “get a life” and “you’re just jealous” comments. Can some of you really not find a better way to express your opinion than resorting to that kind of talk.

Anna on

I agree with everything Jane said. I don’t feel like writing it all down, but her reasons for disliking Tori are the same as mine.

SH on

OK Jane, If I’m the one to tell you that you have a point, will you let it go? It HAS been 2 days afterall…

Mary-Helen on

I dislike Tori alot of reasons, mainly because she acts like she is so perfect while badmouthing her stepson’s mom and her own mother in public and seems to try to reclaim her fame through her adorable children.

However, I see nothing wrong with a child calling their nanny “Nanny”. My eldest daughter had a caregiver when she was a baby whom she started calling “Nana” because her grandkids called her that, and my mom got really hurt because she is “Nana” to the kids so our friend started going by Nannie and it was fine.

Jane on

“OK Jane, If I’m the one to tell you that you have a point, will you let it go? It HAS been 2 days afterall…”

This has nothing to do with people agreeing with me or not. I don’t care if people think I’m right or wrong. I care that there are people on this site who are constantly trying to censor other people whever they express an opinion that isn’t in favor of whatever celebrity happens to be mentioned in that post.

And it is ridiculous that this has been going on for 2 days. It’s absolutely ridiculous that there are people who can’t get it through their heads that they don’t get to decide whether other people are allowed to express that they dislike a celebrity. And if there are people on here who don’t want these posts to go on for days then maybe they need to knock it off with the attempts to censor others.

CelebBabyLover on

Di- I don’t think it’s fair to put all the blame on Tori, either. More than likely the feud is partially Tori’s fault and partially Candy’s.

April- I pretty much agree with you in terms of Tori and judging her and whatnot. However, I don’t think it’s right of you to egg Jane on like that. Obviously she knows how you feel about her by now. I think it’s time for all of us (not just you and her) to agree to disagree!

Mariel on

hahahaha Jane posts are really fun

StephanieF on

wow, when did this site turn into a hate site? I am appalled. Obviously I am not going to finger point…but some of you really are spewing a lot of hateful words to someone you don’t even know personally!

I think her kids are adorable! I find her honesty about life refreshing. She appears to be an amazing mother, and when she talks about them she always lights up. I cannot believe people are actually questioning her love for her kids. Why can’t people just write something nice and if you don’t have anything nice to say…why speak? We are all entitled to our own opinions, but I just hate going on here seeing all these adorable children and then scrolling down through all of this hate and criticism.

Besides all that, those kids are adorable! I really respect Tori and couldn’t say a bad thing about her…because obviously I have never met her. I think she loves her kids and is a good mom. Her lifestyle is not mine, so I cannot pass judgment on her because I can’t even say what I would do in her position.

LauraW on

“hahahaha Jane posts are really fun”

Wow, mariel, you just demonstrated my point with the playground comment I made previously. I seriously hope that you really are a twelve year old, because I think it would be truly sad if a grown woman really behaved the way you are behaving. Isn’t there some sort of substantive way that you could get your point across? I don’t agree with all of the anti-Tori posts in this thread (for instance, I see nothing wrong with her calling her nanny “Nanny”) but there are ways of epxressing that sentiment that would befitting the adults that we all are.

Allison on

time for Jane to take her meds…..LOL. People need to calm down on this blog, for sure.

lala2 on

Allison, I sooooo agree with you!!!!!! Ha, ha, ha….

Mariel on

And how old are you LauraW? eighty years old? I dont want to be unrespectful but c’mon dont take so serius the commentaries on internet blogs. Take it easy!!!

Phyllis Nicholas on

I think Tori is a great mom. I believe the truth is that Tori had emotionally bonded with her nanny as a young child growing up and that is why she remembers her nanny fondly and not her mother. She did not bond emotionally with her mother as a child. Her nanny was the individual early in her life that showed uncondtional love to her. Her mother did not show unconditional love to her and never has-even to this day. Her mother is her mother biologically but not emotionally with unconditional love. That is very key. Truth is they never had a unconditionally loving relationship. They were always strangers by her mother’s design.

Sarah on

It really bothers me when people at that Tori should just apologize and get back into a relationship with her mother. Until you have had a painful and destructive relationship with a family member, you really can’t understand how hard that is. It is extremely sad, but sometimes it is better to stay away. People should really be more sensitive to her on this issue- I doubt she is reading these comments, but what I really mean the press. They were very mean to her about it on the View and other shows. A negative relationship with a close family member should not be trivialized- it is difficult and personal, and it is Tori’s choice whether or not she has contact with her mother. In conclusion, please don’t judge because most of you probably haven’t been there ( and unfortunately I have, but I am thankful it is not my mother). I understand and support Tori!!

12 Weeks Pregnant on

We must give Tory some slack, she’s in the news all the time and I’m sure that most of the time she’s fine with it, but there are moments that she needs some privacy and then she’s also harassed by paparazzi and reporters. Her kids look absolutely cute!

Shannon on

This is way late and I am sure no one involved in these posts will read this, but just in case. Jane is the only person here who seemed to be of high intelligence. Whether or not I agree with her, she is at least very bright. This is probably not be the place for her to verbally spar with others. It is going over their heads.

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