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	<title>Comments on: Ioan Gruffudd and Alice Evans Expecting First Child</title>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catherine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 05:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ment to say perplexed :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ment to say perplexed <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
		<link>http://celebritybabies.people.com/2009/04/20/ioan-gruffudd-and-alice-evans-expecting-first-child/#comment-54332</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catherine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 05:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Babies are always wonderful news and I am happy for the couple. Ioan is a VERY talented actor and I wish him nothing but success in his career. I think that as with the relationships of strangers or even friends and associates we do not know what goes on behind closed doors and we are in no position to judge.
I have to admit, however, that I once saw an interview that Ioan gave about getting engaged to Alice. I felt truely sorry for this man who seems like a true gentleman detailing how he was degraded and belittled by his future bride. I am always complexed by men who chose to love women who abuse them and their relationship. I only hope that as their marriage evolves and they bring children into the world that they have mutual respect for another.
Best wishes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Babies are always wonderful news and I am happy for the couple. Ioan is a VERY talented actor and I wish him nothing but success in his career. I think that as with the relationships of strangers or even friends and associates we do not know what goes on behind closed doors and we are in no position to judge.<br />
I have to admit, however, that I once saw an interview that Ioan gave about getting engaged to Alice. I felt truely sorry for this man who seems like a true gentleman detailing how he was degraded and belittled by his future bride. I am always complexed by men who chose to love women who abuse them and their relationship. I only hope that as their marriage evolves and they bring children into the world that they have mutual respect for another.<br />
Best wishes!</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She was born in New Jersey, actually.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She was born in New Jersey, actually.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicola</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicola]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sarah, I thought the same thing. Even more so in that her name is Alice EVANS. And, thus, she is Welsh! Perhaps born and raised in England, but Welsh nonetheless. So, not very international at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah, I thought the same thing. Even more so in that her name is Alice EVANS. And, thus, she is Welsh! Perhaps born and raised in England, but Welsh nonetheless. So, not very international at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://celebritybabies.people.com/2009/04/20/ioan-gruffudd-and-alice-evans-expecting-first-child/#comment-54322</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not quite sure why the point is made that it&#039;s going to be &#039;some international family&#039;.  Wales and England are hardly far apart, I&#039;m Welsh and my husband is English and I&#039;ve never thought of our future children as being &#039;international&#039;.  Is it because they&#039;re currently in LA?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure why the point is made that it&#8217;s going to be &#8216;some international family&#8217;.  Wales and England are hardly far apart, I&#8217;m Welsh and my husband is English and I&#8217;ve never thought of our future children as being &#8216;international&#8217;.  Is it because they&#8217;re currently in LA?</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah -- looking at her wiki, it&#039;s  clear that fans have gone as close to the edge as possible in their description of her.  It&#039;s pretty easy to read between the lines:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Evans

Check out the history of edits -- inexplicably, someone keeps deleting attributed quotes.  The back-and-forth is actually sort of hilarious.

And here&#039;s a news article from Wales which is more concise about what went on:  http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/tm_headline=gruff-tough-after-alice-blast--&amp;method=full&amp;objectid=19054727&amp;siteid=50082-name_page.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah &#8212; looking at her wiki, it&#8217;s  clear that fans have gone as close to the edge as possible in their description of her.  It&#8217;s pretty easy to read between the lines:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Evans" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Evans</a></p>
<p>Check out the history of edits &#8212; inexplicably, someone keeps deleting attributed quotes.  The back-and-forth is actually sort of hilarious.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s a news article from Wales which is more concise about what went on:  <a href="http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/tm_headline=gruff-tough-after-alice-blast--&#038;method=full&#038;objectid=19054727&#038;siteid=50082-name_page.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/tm_headline=gruff-tough-after-alice-blast&#8211;&#038;method=full&#038;objectid=19054727&#038;siteid=50082-name_page.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heh, no, that was totally not how it went down, unfortunately.  It spilled over into work I was doing for another site, so I got an eyeful of it at the time as it happened.

Basically, the site was a fan site, starting sometime in the mid-90s.  Then Ioan anonymously offered to fund it, in something like 2003.  (It was one of the better-maintained fan sites out there when the &#039;net was young and HTML was basic.)  Then, from what I could see, a few fans said catty things on forum threads -- really not that bad, mostly critiquing Alice&#039;s dress sense in a pretty tame way, other than that just a few trolls.  You know: normal online activity that gets modded.  It was really all stuff that could&#039;ve been easily mended with a bit of online relationship management.

But someone on the Ioan/Alice side of the equation was seeing these nasty posts before (part-time) moderators could nix them, like they were hovering over the board.  And then Ioan intervened with the moderator/siterunner and sent a letter about disrespecting Alice and then they shut down the site and it was probably one of the stupider approaches to online management and PR I&#039;ve ever seen.  Hugely damaging to his fan base, killed off a thriving and practically no-cost publicity arm, and ended up making Alice look like a super-controlling helicopter spouse and Ioan like a pushover, especially since most of the fanbase had been using the site long before Alice appeared on the scene.

There&#039;s a whole other thread to this story involving Alice&#039;s participation on other message boards and treatment of fans, and I think something about her reporting people for editing her Wiki page, I have no idea if it&#039;s true or what...  All I know is that lady has a very, very bad rep in many different places.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, no, that was totally not how it went down, unfortunately.  It spilled over into work I was doing for another site, so I got an eyeful of it at the time as it happened.</p>
<p>Basically, the site was a fan site, starting sometime in the mid-90s.  Then Ioan anonymously offered to fund it, in something like 2003.  (It was one of the better-maintained fan sites out there when the &#8216;net was young and HTML was basic.)  Then, from what I could see, a few fans said catty things on forum threads &#8212; really not that bad, mostly critiquing Alice&#8217;s dress sense in a pretty tame way, other than that just a few trolls.  You know: normal online activity that gets modded.  It was really all stuff that could&#8217;ve been easily mended with a bit of online relationship management.</p>
<p>But someone on the Ioan/Alice side of the equation was seeing these nasty posts before (part-time) moderators could nix them, like they were hovering over the board.  And then Ioan intervened with the moderator/siterunner and sent a letter about disrespecting Alice and then they shut down the site and it was probably one of the stupider approaches to online management and PR I&#8217;ve ever seen.  Hugely damaging to his fan base, killed off a thriving and practically no-cost publicity arm, and ended up making Alice look like a super-controlling helicopter spouse and Ioan like a pushover, especially since most of the fanbase had been using the site long before Alice appeared on the scene.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a whole other thread to this story involving Alice&#8217;s participation on other message boards and treatment of fans, and I think something about her reporting people for editing her Wiki page, I have no idea if it&#8217;s true or what&#8230;  All I know is that lady has a very, very bad rep in many different places.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilliness</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lilliness]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The insults were done in the site forum by fans and the moderator was the one that seemed to take all the blame. It was a great site, full of movie clips and what not so it was kind of sad that a few bad apples had to spoil it for everyone. I don&#039;t blame Alice for being upset, but I think she needs to realize thats part of being the spotlight, not everyone is going to like you. Ioan did the right thing by siding with his wife though, its what any good husband would do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The insults were done in the site forum by fans and the moderator was the one that seemed to take all the blame. It was a great site, full of movie clips and what not so it was kind of sad that a few bad apples had to spoil it for everyone. I don&#8217;t blame Alice for being upset, but I think she needs to realize thats part of being the spotlight, not everyone is going to like you. Ioan did the right thing by siding with his wife though, its what any good husband would do.</p>
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		<title>By: eternalcanadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eternalcanadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh I really enjoyed the Horatio Hornblower series!  Congrats to Ioan and Alice!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I really enjoyed the Horatio Hornblower series!  Congrats to Ioan and Alice!</p>
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		<title>By: Cath</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can anyone provide a link to the photos of them over the weekend? I&#039;d love to see her bump!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone provide a link to the photos of them over the weekend? I&#8217;d love to see her bump!</p>
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