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Cat and Jennifer Cora Welcome Son Thatcher Julius

04/06/2009 at 04:45 PM ET
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Iron Chef Cat Cora is a proud new mom: Wife Jennifer gave birth to son Thatcher Julius Cora on Saturday, April 4th! No further details have been released, but the couple’s rep shares, “Cat and Jennifer loved the old English name Thatcher, and Julius was Jennifer’s grandfather’s name. Both mom and baby are doing great!” The couple had better get ready for another baby in the house, as Cat, 41, is also pregnant with a baby boy, expected in July!

Thatcher was welcomed by brothers Zoran, 5, and Caje, 2. Zoran and the baby Cat is carrying are from Jennifer’s eggs, while Caje is from Cat’s. The identity of Thatcher’s biological mother is unknown, as both women’s embryos were transferred for conception. The same sperm donor was used for all of the couple’s sons.

Source: OK! Magazine

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Jane on

Interesting name! Very serious and important sounding. Congrats.

Jazz on

Congrats to them! I like the name.

Susan on

That’s so cool.

Xan on

Fascinating about the unknown bio mom. I wonder if that was the case with the other children and they only decided to find out after birth. In that case, the bio mom now might only be a mystery until the fourth baby’s birth. It’s quite unconventional, but seems like an interesting way to add another element of surprise and excitement to the pregnancy process.

(Also, in case it was not clear above, I only wonder out of curiosity, not because I think it “matters” which mother is biological.)

His Mama on

Thatcher goes well with his brothers names!! I wonder what the next boy will be named….hmmm! Congrats to them!

Crystal on

That is so neat! If I am reading that right then they are implanting fertilized eggs that are from the other and then carrying the baby. So what I mean is Cat is carrying Jen’s bio baby and Jen is carrying Cat’s. That is a definite other way to go about it.
Congrats to them.

Joy on

Okay, I know I am not the only one who thinks her girlfriend looks like a taller version of Cat. Looks like she is dating her own sister. LOL!

ErykaWynter on

Joy – I was thinking the same thing. When I first glanced at the photo, I wasn’t sure which one Cat was!

Sarah on

Isn’t Cat Cora the taller one in that picture?

Courtney on

CONGRATS!!!! Thats just awesome!!!!

Love the name too!

Molly on

Congrats to them! What a cool name.

Anna on

Which one of them is Cat? They look like sisters! Those must be some cute little boys! Are there any pictures of them on this site?

Brooke on

That was QUICK!!! I think the name is adorable!!

aubrey madeline on

Congratulations thatcher is not a name we hear everyday

Sanja on

Thatcher only reminds me of Margaret Thatcher,and I really can’t like her. I love Julius though!

Is Cora the family last name or is it one of his middle names?

Btw, how can they be wives if gay marriages are not legal in the US (or did I miss something in the news?)?

aubrey madeline on

Cat and Jennifer sons all have unusual names but its okay names unlike freedom reginbow zuma netsa rock audio science peanut kai

steph on

when they said they didnt know who the bio mom was… i thought jennifer gave her eggs for cat and cat gave her eggs for jennifer? or did they put all the eggs together and then just injected in into them and they wont know who the bio mom is until they do dna??

steph

Brandi on

Sanja, Cora is the family name. Gay marriage is legal in a number of states and others are thankfully moving that way as well.

Steph, Cat said embryos using both women’s eggs were transferred into Jennifer, while only embryos using Jennifer’s eggs were transferred into her.

Congratulations to Cat and Jennifer, what a great name.

fergette on

Congrats to them! I love the name Thatcher. I bet they are over the moon. : )

aubrey madeline on

I don’t know where they lived but gay marriage is legal in these states

California
In May of 2008, California’s Supreme Court ruled that banning same-sex marriage in the state was discriminatory (read more). for six months same-sex couples were allowed to marry. And then, the voter initiative Proposition 8, was passed, effectively striking down the court ruling. Marriage in California is now defined as between one man and one woman.

Connecticut
In a 4 to 3 decision, the Connecticut Supreme Court overturned the state’s ban on same-sex marriage, making it the third state to allow legal gay marriage.

Iowa
On April 3, 2009, Iowa became the third US state to allow same-sex marriage. The Supreme Court voted unanimously in favor of gay marriage. Couples can begin exchanging vows on April 24, 2009. Here’s what gay and lesbian couples need to know before they http://gaylife.about.com/od/samesexmarriag1/ht/gaymarriageiowa.htm%5Dmarry in Iowa.

New York
Note: By a May 29, 2008 directive, New York only recognizes gay marriages from couples legally married outside of the state. read more

Massachusetts
On May 17, 2004 Massachusetts became the first U.S. state to legalize same-sex marriage. The State of Massachusetts also issues licenses to gay couples from New Mexico and Rhode Island since neither state explicitly prohibits same-sex marriage.

bunch on

Thatcher? Really not a fan. Note because its unconventional but simply because you cannot call your kid Thatcher and NOT think of Margaret Thatcher. I guess it is the name of a “powerful” leader but perhaps Julius would have been better as first, or Augustus… regardless its not my choice nor should I care what the child is called – none of my business

Dianne on

Joy…..after almost 4 sons together, they are more than dating :)

akaisha on

perhaps they were married in canada! (shameless i’m a canadian plug). or, perhaps, they simply view themselves as married. if you’re in a comitted relationship there’s not much of a difference, IMO.

Kim on

This is not natural. Having to go thru all of the conception with test tubes and implanting eggs, etc. just seems not natural to me. I wonder how far this will all go.

Jazz on

Sarah-

Cat is actually the shorter one. It’s unbelievable how much they look alike.

Brooke on

Kim – I have no idea waht is not natural to you. Women involved in heterosexual relationships are implanted every single day with sperm to make a baby. It may not be natural in the scientific sense, but these women are absolutely no different than anyone that goes through a fertility procedure. I suspect your issue is with the women being lesbian.

Sara on

Wow, they really do look alike! Love the name – congrats to them! Hope to see some pics soon :-)

CC on

I’m so happy for them!!! Congrats to the happy family…

Kim, I found what you said to be very offensive and hurtful…. There are many women like myself who have trouble getting pregnant the “Natural” way. And if it wasn’t for conception with test tubes and implanting eggs, etc, we would never be able to have a baby.

I wish people would think before they said things like that. No one should be denied the right to have a family or the chance at having a baby.

Mrs. R. on

Kim – it’s disappointing that you see forms of IVF as unnatural… or that you see gay women using them as unnatural. Either way – it seems really unfair to deny a woman the ability to have a child. When there are SO many HORRIBLE ‘natural’ mothers out there, when a woman REALLY wants a child and could be a wonderful mother, who are we as society to reject her wishes.

As for Thatcher… SUPER cute! I really like the name. It seems sweet.

Daisy on

Love that they have found a way to have a family together and that both mothers are involved in the conception/ carrying. 4 boys is so cute, gonna be one mad household.

Thathcer as a name however, I just can’t like. As others have said it makes you think of Margret and being a young Irish person that is not a woman I think very highly of. Can’t wait to hear what the next babe is going to be called though.

eva on

They must be so busy with a newborn baby, two big boys and expecting another one.They sounds like a cute famile. Tatcher maks me think of Margaret Tatcher, not the happiest association, but Juilius is a great name.

Shawna on

I like the name Thatcher. I think of Grey’s Anatomy when I hear the name (Meredith’s father is named Thatcher Grey and they call him Thatch for short). Congrats to them and hopefully they get all settled in before the next one arrives!

ElleJsis on

It’s easy to speak negatively on “unnatural” conception when you have the luck of being able to have a child the regular way. I don’t have kids but if I should choose to, I’d be glad to have IVF if i could not conceive.

I have however wondered if the whole fertility treatment stuff, messes with natural selection and all that..but probably no more than medicine and nutrition have.

eternalcanadian on

Wow, I didn’t know the babies were due like now. Congratulations to them! It is very interesting how they’ve gone about the embryo implating–I thought Cat was implanted with embryos that had Jennifer’s eggs and Jennifer with Cat’s eggs, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

Stepha on

I haven’t read the other posts yet, so I don’t know what others have said… I had IVF with both of my children. When I ‘jokingly’ asked if ‘mistakes’ were ever made at the fertility clinics, I was told that one woman could not carry another woman’s eggs without hormone support in the form of shots everyday. Maybe because our bodies would recognise that we are not carrying our own eggs? Just something curious..and my interpretation of the info I shared could be wrong- I just don’t understand how a woman wouldn’t know whose egs/embryos she was carrying, unless they figured it’s none of our business- or unless I am wrong!

Moore on

Kim, I can understand how you view this as unnatural. There is so much involved medically and scientifically speaking that it differs greatly from natural conception.

I still wonder about the choice to implant both embryos. How does that work and how does that change the body’s workings? That part is still not something I’m up to. That said, there are people who had the desire to be parents with no alternatives other than adoption. Great minds have come up with options and this is one of them.

I didn’t know either of them was due so soon. I was thinking summer. At least they’ll have time to adjust before the next one comes along.

TJ on

Sorry if I offend any-one, but playing around with embryos, not knowing who’s egg is where sounds wrong. I have no problem with IVF or gay marriage nor am I religious. But swapping eggs etc by these woman seems pretentious(or are they trying some form of romance, by carrying each others eggs.)

April on

Honestly, it’s pretty smart for legal reasons. We all know the problems gay partners that split can be dealt retaining custody of their children. This way, each mom has a part in each child. One is the biological mother and one carries and births the baby. It’s hard to distinguish the “real” mom when that is the situation.

Alex on

Zoran & Julius are gorgeous names. Congrats to them!

lawgirl on

The wording of this post is awkward for obvious reasons. These children wouldn’t be possible without major scientific intervention. I hope these two women have given serious thought to the ethical implications of their decision to have children in this manner, and I don’t just mean their decision to use IVF. Fertility problems are one thing, but I seriously question the morality of such the arguably unnecessary mishmash of scientific procedures and manipulation of the human body to have children that Cat and Jennifer have chosen.

Mrs. R. on

April – that is the smartest idea I’ve ever read about gay parenting. Brilliant! I wonder if that’s why they did it. I will have to ask my lesbian friend if that’s a commonly held idea around parenting in the gay community, or if you are just incredibly insightful! Good thinking!

lawgirl on

P.S. As a follow-up to Aubrey and Akaisha – if you are a resident of the US in a jurisdiction where same sex marriage is not legal and you travel to Canada to have a same sex marriage solemnized, your marriage will not be valid when you return to your place of residence.

g!na on

# lawgirl Says:
April 7th, 2009 at 12:07 am

P.S. As a follow-up to Aubrey and Akaisha – if you are a resident of the US in a jurisdiction where same sex marriage is not legal and you travel to Canada to have a same sex marriage solemnized, your marriage will not be valid when you return to your place of residence.

Hi, I was wondering if you live in california and get married in Iowa would it still be legit when you come back to California? thanks.

Sam on

I like the name Thatcher a lot! It’s a little bit different bu it still sounds like a “name.” Not a fan of Julius, though; it’s always sounded very feminine to me.

As far as them not knowing who is the biological mother, I would think that would not matter as far as legal proceedings go. I know it varies by state, but I thought (and correct me if I’m wrong), that the “real” mother is, legally, the one who gives birth to the child (regardless of whether or not she and the child are biologically related), unless her partner adopts the child. The partner would therefore be the “real” mom. I’m not sure, though, this is just based on other law suits I’ve read about. And again, it may vary state to state.

Eleonora on

It is a odd situation but I’m happy for them!
Interesting name choice..

L. on

44, the real parents are those who intended to be the parents. There was a case a few years ago that involved three sets of potential “parents”:

1. The egg donor and her husband,
2. The gestational carrier and her husband, and
3. The couple who had wanted a child.

Couple 3 divorced while the gestational surrogate was still pregnant and decided that they didn’t want to be parents any more. So a court had to decide which of the six would have the responsibility of the child. The court ruled that Couple 3 were the parents, because they had been the ones who wanted the child to be born. The others involved were just acting as agents carrying out the wishes of Couple 3.

A more common situation that would answer your question is when a couple hires a gestational surrogate to carry their own egg. The gestational surrogate has no moral or legal rights to the baby when it is born, even though she gave birth to it.

L. on

I forgot to add, congrats to The Coras!

Sara on

I am not sure I am a fan of them both being pregnant at the same time and having babies 3 months a part. I realize it not my place to judge, I am just saying. Why would anyone want to put yourself through that. Wait a year and then get the other one pregnant. It will be very hard to have two almost the same age, especially I think if they are not exactly the same age. Two small babies with demanding schedules, yet they will not be exactly the same age so you can not put them on the same sleep and feeding schedule. Also about April’s comment. Actually if they were to split the person who gave birth to the kid’s would have no rights if she was not the “egg donor”. This has been studied in the past. The father would need to give up all parental rights and then the other mom would need to adopt the baby. At that point it does not matter who “had” the baby.

amerie on

Congrats to them, Thatcher is such a cute name! Does anyone know how their son caje name is pronounced ive never seen this name before does anyone know its origin and meaning

Simone on

LOL(sarcastic laugh)…actually i only read the comments to see if there were any biast statements and sure enough…IT IS SAD!!!!!!!!

Congratulations to the family to their new bundle of joy!!!

Have to agree on the name though cant stop thinking of Maggie..wouldnt have been my 1st choice but then it isnt my baby :-)

Alex on

I think they are a great example to other gay parents/parents to be, and two very beautiful ladies at that! Those children must be beautiful! One thing, how do you pronounce Caje? Is it like ‘Cage’? Or more like ‘Cay-er’?

sandy on

This story doesn’t seem as confusing to me.

1. Cat and Jennifer are likely residents of California. Why gay marriage is no longer legal there, it was for a short time. If they were married during that time, their marriage is still (curently) recognized by the state in which they live. (ie ellen + portia)

2. For the child Cat is currently carrying I would suggest that she underwent IVF. Both her eggs and Jennifer’s eggs were fertilized outside of Cat’s womb with sperm from the same donor. At least two embryos were then implanted into Cat (could have been more, but at least one was from Cat’s egg and one was from Jennifer’s egg). This resulted in a healthy “single” pregnancy…they just don’t know which embryo took. Alternatively, the same process of fertilization could have taken place and only one embryo was implanted, but again, they don’t know which.

Whether there are legal or “romantic” reasons behind their decision to carry one another’s biological children I think it’s a great testament to their commitment to one another and their family. As a heterosexual woman with two children luckily conceived w/o the use of medical aid…I applaud them.

Harley on

Congrats to them! I bet the boys are thrilled to have another sib!

As for the marriage, whether they were “married” in a ceremony (non-legal) or married in a state that allows it, I have no problem looking at couples who have been together and are committed to eachother for a long period of time as being married. I love the way they have worked out carrying their children and I admire their relationship :)

Elizabeth on

It’s absolutely none of our business, but I certainly hope they tell the child who the biological parent is. It would be very cruel to make him go through life not knowing that simple fact.

I say this as an adult who was adopted as a newborn and had a happy life with adoptive parents. Obviously I know biology does not make the parent, but we all have the right to know what our biological background is.

Harley on

Oh, and a comment on the whose egg went where. I remember a few years ago a court (not sure in which state) recognized both women as the parents and were legally put on the birth certificate because one of the women was implanted with the other woman’s egg and gave birth. I thought it was pure genius because you can’t really deny either of them as being the mother.

Patrice on

Congrats on another healthy baby! I do however think it is quite selfish of the women to NOT find out who Thatcher’s biological mather is. While I can see how they feel he will be as equally loved as his brothers no matter what, how can this be fair? All of the other children will know who their bio-mother is except him…doen’t he have a right to know as well? I’m left to wonder why find out with the other three boys and NOT him?

Patrice on

Xan: To answer your inquiry (and what I find so disturbing) is the fact that both women have said that although they knew the identity of the biological mother’s in each previous pregnancy, they have publicaly said that they have no intention whatsoever of finding out who the biological mother is with Cat’s pregnancy. Why intentionally single out one of the children this way? I think it is cruel.

BostonMom on

Every family comes together in its own way. I am quite sure these two loving mothers will do whatever is best for their sons (in terms of finding out or not finding out who their biological mother is), and only they will know best what that is. I have a friend who does not know if her twin sister is identical or fraternal (they look very similar) and they choose to not know for certain for a whole host of reasons. Perhaps this child will prefer not to know who is biological mom is…it may not matter to him at all.

The fact that the moms love each other and their children is all that matters. Who out there is fit to judge them? No one.

brannon on

Love this story and love the name! What a beautiful family with a fantastic story! (on a side note to those of you disturbed by how ‘unnatural and scientific’ this is…. I can only assume you would disapprove a cure or treatment for cancer, all c-sections, birth control, vaccines, etc as well?)

bree on

I am so happy for them both!!
Not names that I would ever choose but it is alot better than a pile of the names that are coming out these days

As for the way they decided to have their children I can understand why they choose to switch embryos, that way each child is apart of both of them, one of them is the biological parent and the other carried him and gave him life.
I really don’t think it matters who the biological parent is, nor do I think that their kids will care.
As the child of a gay couple, although my parents didn’t get together until I was 13, I love my parents equally and I have nothing to do with my biological father. As far as I am concerned I have two loving parents and had the gotten together when I was younger I wouldn’t honestly care who my biological mother was. They are both amazing parents as I’m sure Cat and Jennifer are and really that is all that matters.

What would have happened if the kids were adopted, they definatly wouldn’t know woh their biological parents where then, why does it matter in this situation??

Congrats to them both!!!!!!!! They deserve every happiness

lara jane on

At first blush, I love the name Thatcher Julius, although I think Julius Thatcher has a better flow. But like others have said, Margaret Thatcher doesn’t leave a favorable association. Julius does remind me of Orange Julius, and I think I favor Julian, but it’s still a nice, strong name.

On the other hand, I kind of detest the other two boys’ names. Zoran and Caje? Just not my style.

Congrats to the family.

Patrice on

To all of those who have (seemingly) responded to what I’ve siad about the couples children’s paternity: It for me is not about whetehr or not they find out for ANY of the children, it is about they fact that the twp women have said themselves that they do know the paternity of THREE of the children, but will not find out for the fourth. I cannot imagine being singled out this way, especially by twp parents who laim they waant everyhting to be equal for ALL of their children.
P.S. As a side note: EVREYONE has the right to know excatly where they come from. It should not be up to two selfish parents to decide wherether or not that is important for anyone else, even (or especially) their own children.

BostonMom on

I want to add to my earlier comment that no one ever said that they REFUSE to find out who the child’s biological mother is. Read a little closer, people! They just said they don’t know, because both moms’ embryos were implanted. Perhaps it was the same way with one or both of their previous children. Maybe they will choose to find out, now that the baby is here. Whatever the case may be, it is up to them. I am sure that in their house, they treat all their kids equally and they parent them equally, so what does it really matter? And of course if the child ever wants to know, I am sure that will be his right.

eternalcanadian on

I do agree with other posters it seems wrong to not find out who the biological parent is of the baby Cat is carrying if they already know for the other 3. Maybe they were misquoted on that aspect, or it is gossip, as I can’t imagine any reason for not finding out, ya know?

brandi on

Alex, Caje is pronounced like Cage.

lawgirl on

RE: g!na

The marriage would likely not be valid, but I would recommend a legal opinion from a lawyer in the state of California on the issue.

Kelly on

I disagree; it’s not cruel to the 4th child to not know EXACTLY who the biological mother is! How strange! What does it matter? So they only used one woman’s eggs for the other three, and it’s a toss-up for the fourth. Will the child feel belittled because of it? I really doubt it, as long as he is brought up in a loving home! Good gracious!

celi on

I thought the same thing Cat and Jennifer do look so much alike I had to look twice to see who is Cat

MiB on

Congratulations to the Coras!

I am sure that they will make a DNA-test if it one day becomes important for their son to know wo his biological mother is, but I think that they for now are fine with just knowing that they are his mothers.

Also, I think that Cat’s age might have something to do with the “egg” situation, at 41 she may not have had enough viable eggs left and it may have been more feasible for Jennifer to carry it. But what do I know about this, actually? The point is they had a healthy baby and the delivery went fine.

Jackie on

Does anyone else think this is a bit icky? I don’t care what people do in private, but this is not private. Why tell us? Go ahead and knock me for having a “closed” mind, but I think we’ve gone too far with putting our bedrooms in the public spotlight, and that goes for straight people too. Why not do what Jodie Foster did? She was respectful about it and kept it private. Why make a spectacle about? I don’t want to know the details about the eggs and the sperm donor and the implantation. Just tell me that so-and-so gave birth and I’ll send along my congrats on a healthy new child.

barbara on

wow we are ever evolving a baaby loved is a baby loved

nancy98 on

WOW, didn’t even know Cat Cora was a lesbian.

Ms. O'C on

To not find out which parent is the biological one is to deny the child the chance to establish an accurate family medical history in the future. It seems to me that they do owe all of their children access to that information — but it’s fair enough to keep the public guessing. They seem like smart women so I hope that’s what’s up.

Leslee on

I watch Iron Chef whenever it is on when I’m home – I had no idea Cat had any children at all! She looks way too young – or maybe I am too old!!! Blessings to the family.

Diane on

Congrats to both moms! I like the name Thatcher, sounds like a strong male name. As to how they mixed up the eggs who cares, as long as the babies are born healthy and born to a loving home. Sending my love to all the moms and moms to be.

barbeq on

The whole fertility process is actually quite wonderful. I think they have done a wonderful job. They are both very beautiful women and I would bet those kids are absolutely beautiful!!! I had to go through fertility to get my daughter and it really wasn’t that bad. My husband was not a fan of it, he said it wasn’t “natural”, that’s not the way God intended it to happen. I had to do a lot of coaxing him, but he came around to the idea. The Lord gave human beings the intelligence to be able to do this sort of thing, and many other things for that matter. Alot of people do it, whether their lesbian or straight – whatever. If you wanted a kid as bad as I did, then you will do whatever you have to do, within reason, (I mean I wouldn’t steal a kid), to have a child. She is my world, my daughter. I also have a son, who was a surprise because after my daughter, we weren’t sure we could have another one. So – KUDOS to the two of them. They want a family and now they have one. I think it’s wonderful. CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM!!!!!

Dawn on

Swapping embryos? Two mothers and no dad ? Those kids are going to painfully bear the complexities of those childhoods for a long time. Don’t agree with me? Just read any APA journal article dealing with the topic.

Eleni on

I’ve read articles about Cat Cora before and knew that she was married and had two sons; I didn’t realize she was married to a woman.

Cat’s from Louisiana which is, of course, Cajun country. I wonder if that’s where Caje got his name.

oakie on

Congrats Cat and Jennifer! I read some of the comments above and can tell most everyone loves ya like I do! I sure like watching you cook Cat, and my hubby thinks you are the best! I was raised by a woman who was alone alot then had a female partner, and can say I grew up just fine! We had normal problems like everyone else! You have love and honesty for each other and I can see as well for your children, again congrats

scharee on

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD give you both the strength and energy to keep up with all those boys.
What a beautiful family

Patrice on

eternalcanadian; Dawn,and ESPECIALLY Jackie: I could NOT agree with any of the three of you more!!!

LAURA on

Patrice I’m right there with you and the other three! It’s one thing to be assisted in conception, but swapping eggs and not knowing who’s baby one is carrying is a bit strange. I’m not close-minded and I shouldn’t even have to defend myself for having an opinion but the situation is rather odd. I’m sure the kids are all well loved but the parents’ choices will have a strong effect on the kids as they grow up.

Leigh on

Dawn, actually the majority of APA articles about this ‘topic’ state that there are no harmful effects of having two moms or two dads. Kids of gay parents generally grow up just as healthy and happy as kids of heterosexual parents. I’m sure Cat and Jennifer are doing a great job of raising their boys. Congrats to them both, I can’t wait to hear about their next baby!

Lauren on

Congrats to them aside, this is bar none the most confusing family I’ve ever seen on CBB. Forget who’s pregnant with whose eggs and which baby was birthed by which mother-Cat and Jennifer look like bookends! I was convinced Cat was the taller one and stunned to realize she was actually the one on the left.

Allison on

Wow, baby Thatcher will be a big brother at 3 months old! Congratulations to both new parents (to be)!

Tiffany on

Cat is actually the shorter one in the picture.

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