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	<title>Comments on: Naveen Andrews Wins Legal, Physical Custody of Son</title>
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		<title>By: phoebe</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, if you think I&#039;ve missed the point, I think you&#039;ve missed mine. Just to be clear, and in the hope that it will finally be understood, I AM NOT DEFENDING THE MOTHER. The child is the victim (I&#039;ve probably said this four or so times by now, but this seems to have been disregarded every time), but that doesn&#039;t mean we can&#039;t or shouldn&#039;t feel for the mother. And before that gets jumped on by someone thinking that is biased against the father, no it isn&#039;t. I would be feeling the same sadness for him too. When you are a parent, you can appreciate the pain of being separated from a child, and while I&#039;m sure there ARE people who believe a child should always be with the mother, I am not one of them. To be clear on the comparison comments, in this list of comments, a drug addict and alcoholic have been discussed, as has a woman accused of murdering her own child. Even if these haven&#039;t been direct comparisons, the situations have still been referred to, and with an implied comparison made. And *I*, no it wasn&#039;t you I was referring to, it was much further up the comments. I can&#039;t believe that in a conversation with (largely) other parents, hardly anyone can have sympathy for the mother here, or at the very least quit bashing her long enough to recognise her pain. I have said repeatedly that we can not (and I do not) use what was said in court as a marker for what the truth is. Elena said a lot of bad things about Naveen. Just because the judge ruled against her, does this mean they aren&#039;t true? NO. Naveen asked for a psych evaluation, but just because the judge ruled for him, does this mean Elena has mental issues? NO. I am shocked and appauled at the amount of people who are swallowing a court verdict without even considering that it might not reflect the truth. We don&#039;t know enough about this family to even begin to make a verdict on them, yet there are people here who are bashing one side or the other, thinking that a temporary court verdict gives them the grounds to do so.

Does my ability to be openminded equal a bias against the father? No. Does it mean I think the mother is an angel? No. To be straight here, I AM NOT BIASED AGAINST THE FATHER. I am able to look at the situation without bias, and feel for the parent who is unable to live with their child, because I am not qualified to say who is a fit parent and who isn&#039;t. I would have equal sympathy for a father. Having sympathy for the parent DOES NOT mean I do not think the child is the most important person in this, because clearly I do. It&#039;s really shocking the amount of people who seem to be disregarding how the mother must be feeling, and just because I happen to feel for her, that means I am manbashing? That&#039;s a really awful thing to accuse someone of, especially with no grounds to do so. I hope my point is clear enough this time. Best wishes to all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, if you think I&#8217;ve missed the point, I think you&#8217;ve missed mine. Just to be clear, and in the hope that it will finally be understood, I AM NOT DEFENDING THE MOTHER. The child is the victim (I&#8217;ve probably said this four or so times by now, but this seems to have been disregarded every time), but that doesn&#8217;t mean we can&#8217;t or shouldn&#8217;t feel for the mother. And before that gets jumped on by someone thinking that is biased against the father, no it isn&#8217;t. I would be feeling the same sadness for him too. When you are a parent, you can appreciate the pain of being separated from a child, and while I&#8217;m sure there ARE people who believe a child should always be with the mother, I am not one of them. To be clear on the comparison comments, in this list of comments, a drug addict and alcoholic have been discussed, as has a woman accused of murdering her own child. Even if these haven&#8217;t been direct comparisons, the situations have still been referred to, and with an implied comparison made. And *I*, no it wasn&#8217;t you I was referring to, it was much further up the comments. I can&#8217;t believe that in a conversation with (largely) other parents, hardly anyone can have sympathy for the mother here, or at the very least quit bashing her long enough to recognise her pain. I have said repeatedly that we can not (and I do not) use what was said in court as a marker for what the truth is. Elena said a lot of bad things about Naveen. Just because the judge ruled against her, does this mean they aren&#8217;t true? NO. Naveen asked for a psych evaluation, but just because the judge ruled for him, does this mean Elena has mental issues? NO. I am shocked and appauled at the amount of people who are swallowing a court verdict without even considering that it might not reflect the truth. We don&#8217;t know enough about this family to even begin to make a verdict on them, yet there are people here who are bashing one side or the other, thinking that a temporary court verdict gives them the grounds to do so.</p>
<p>Does my ability to be openminded equal a bias against the father? No. Does it mean I think the mother is an angel? No. To be straight here, I AM NOT BIASED AGAINST THE FATHER. I am able to look at the situation without bias, and feel for the parent who is unable to live with their child, because I am not qualified to say who is a fit parent and who isn&#8217;t. I would have equal sympathy for a father. Having sympathy for the parent DOES NOT mean I do not think the child is the most important person in this, because clearly I do. It&#8217;s really shocking the amount of people who seem to be disregarding how the mother must be feeling, and just because I happen to feel for her, that means I am manbashing? That&#8217;s a really awful thing to accuse someone of, especially with no grounds to do so. I hope my point is clear enough this time. Best wishes to all.</p>
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		<title>By: ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ellen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nathasha, i believe that only parents should be involved in such agreements. step parents are okay but in this situation there is only some woman who could be boy‘s grandmom living with his father, not stepmom. and i am almost sure that boy would have stayed with his mom if naveen wouldn‘t be celebrity.
hcecilia, i still believe that she shouldn‘t be involved in agreement. it just doesn‘t feel right. she‘s not boy‘s mother, relitive or even family member, just some woman his father living with.
i‘m not talking about hurt feelings or something like that, just don‘t believe that taking kid away like that and allowing barbara to take care of him just don‘t feel right to me. i‘m not going totalk how i understand family, but this situation doesn‘t feel healthy at all. i would be o.k. with my boyfriend being with our son with his girlfriend if we ever break up, but if i‘ll be in elena‘s place (have kid with celebrity and then he return to his twice older than me girlfriend who can‘t have kids any longer and try to have sole custody) i wouldn‘t  be o.k. with kid staying with her without observation even if i go out of mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nathasha, i believe that only parents should be involved in such agreements. step parents are okay but in this situation there is only some woman who could be boy‘s grandmom living with his father, not stepmom. and i am almost sure that boy would have stayed with his mom if naveen wouldn‘t be celebrity.<br />
hcecilia, i still believe that she shouldn‘t be involved in agreement. it just doesn‘t feel right. she‘s not boy‘s mother, relitive or even family member, just some woman his father living with.<br />
i‘m not talking about hurt feelings or something like that, just don‘t believe that taking kid away like that and allowing barbara to take care of him just don‘t feel right to me. i‘m not going totalk how i understand family, but this situation doesn‘t feel healthy at all. i would be o.k. with my boyfriend being with our son with his girlfriend if we ever break up, but if i‘ll be in elena‘s place (have kid with celebrity and then he return to his twice older than me girlfriend who can‘t have kids any longer and try to have sole custody) i wouldn‘t  be o.k. with kid staying with her without observation even if i go out of mind.</p>
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		<title>By: CelebBabyLover</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CelebBabyLover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and I also think it&#039;s awful to call someone a &quot;trainwreck&quot; (like so many people have referred to Britney). I mean, how would YOU like it if somone called YOU that, especially if you were dealing with a mental illness at the time?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I also think it&#8217;s awful to call someone a &#8220;trainwreck&#8221; (like so many people have referred to Britney). I mean, how would YOU like it if somone called YOU that, especially if you were dealing with a mental illness at the time?</p>
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		<title>By: CelebBabyLover</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CelebBabyLover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[meghan- You made a very good point about Britney. I DID initally think it was unfair that Kevin was trying to take the kids away from her. Not only did I think it was unfair to her, but I thought that it was unfair to the boys. At the time, Preston and Jayden were 2 and 1 respectively, and at that age, kids usually want/need mommy. I feared that being seperated from Britney would be traumatic for the boys (as well as for Britney).

However, I came to realize that being with Kevin full-time was what was best for them at the time, and that being left with Britney probably would have actually been more traumatic for them than being taken away from her was.

All of that said, I feel like there is a HUGE double-standard here. When Kevin filed for full custody of Preston and Jayden, almost everyone was saying things like, &quot;I hope he gets those boys!&quot; or &quot;Britney deserves to lose custody of those boys,&quot; or even &quot;Those boys need to be taken from Britney before something tragic happens to them!&quot; (note: None of the comments I just mentioned, except for the first one, were actually said word-for-word the way I worded them. The way I worded them is simply the gist of what was being said at the time).

When Britney lost custody, people were saying things like, &quot;Good for Kevin!&quot;, &quot;I&#039;m glad those boys were taken away from their unfit mother!&quot;, &quot;Maybe this will finally be a wake-up call to Britney!&quot;, etc. (again, none of those comments were actually said word-for-word the way I worded them).

Yet in this case, most people are defending the mother! Granted, I realize that in Britney&#039;s case, it was quite clear that she had some major issues and was not fit to care for two little boys at that time, while we really don&#039;t know what kind of parent Elena is, or how stable she is. However, the point is that people were practically cheering when Britney lost custody, but think it&#039;s awful that Elena did. Why such a double-standard (and, for what it&#039;s worth, I think it&#039;s awful to basically say a mother deserves to lose her child, no matter how unfit/unstable she is. I mean, talk about a slap in the face!)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meghan- You made a very good point about Britney. I DID initally think it was unfair that Kevin was trying to take the kids away from her. Not only did I think it was unfair to her, but I thought that it was unfair to the boys. At the time, Preston and Jayden were 2 and 1 respectively, and at that age, kids usually want/need mommy. I feared that being seperated from Britney would be traumatic for the boys (as well as for Britney).</p>
<p>However, I came to realize that being with Kevin full-time was what was best for them at the time, and that being left with Britney probably would have actually been more traumatic for them than being taken away from her was.</p>
<p>All of that said, I feel like there is a HUGE double-standard here. When Kevin filed for full custody of Preston and Jayden, almost everyone was saying things like, &#8220;I hope he gets those boys!&#8221; or &#8220;Britney deserves to lose custody of those boys,&#8221; or even &#8220;Those boys need to be taken from Britney before something tragic happens to them!&#8221; (note: None of the comments I just mentioned, except for the first one, were actually said word-for-word the way I worded them. The way I worded them is simply the gist of what was being said at the time).</p>
<p>When Britney lost custody, people were saying things like, &#8220;Good for Kevin!&#8221;, &#8220;I&#8217;m glad those boys were taken away from their unfit mother!&#8221;, &#8220;Maybe this will finally be a wake-up call to Britney!&#8221;, etc. (again, none of those comments were actually said word-for-word the way I worded them).</p>
<p>Yet in this case, most people are defending the mother! Granted, I realize that in Britney&#8217;s case, it was quite clear that she had some major issues and was not fit to care for two little boys at that time, while we really don&#8217;t know what kind of parent Elena is, or how stable she is. However, the point is that people were practically cheering when Britney lost custody, but think it&#8217;s awful that Elena did. Why such a double-standard (and, for what it&#8217;s worth, I think it&#8217;s awful to basically say a mother deserves to lose her child, no matter how unfit/unstable she is. I mean, talk about a slap in the face!)?</p>
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		<title>By: eva</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t trying to judge Ellen in particular.Like Phoebe rightly says,I don&#039;t know what goes on in her life or her ex&#039;s (and do not care).
My comment and story was rather done hoping to illustrate that sometimes hurting a mother&#039;s feelings (which has been implied as the reason not to take sole custody) is the right thing to do.If this case is not like that I can only hope that in the future its not too late to correct the wrongs done against Naveen Joshua and his mother.
However, in the general scope of things some ladies were saying that no child should be separated from his or her mother,unless their inability to parent is obvious and overtly clear. I get it that no one here would &quot;say give the child to the mother even if she&#039;s physically abusive or drunk 24/7&quot;.What I mean is that sometimes the neglect and the inability to parent is not obvious.In our case it wasn&#039;t obvious,before the drunk driving joyride this woman took with a little 5 month old on tow everyone thought my husband was a cruel,nasty man who was using the baby to get back at the ex.So,to get the police,the courts and the lawyer to do something we had to wait for a drunk woman to endanger our daughter&#039;s life.Then most people saw our side.Then my husband passed away and I (the nasty girlfriend turned evil wife and step-mother)had to fight for K&#039;s sake.And still,with the RIGHT reasons you would expect,people around us are not satisfied.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t trying to judge Ellen in particular.Like Phoebe rightly says,I don&#8217;t know what goes on in her life or her ex&#8217;s (and do not care).<br />
My comment and story was rather done hoping to illustrate that sometimes hurting a mother&#8217;s feelings (which has been implied as the reason not to take sole custody) is the right thing to do.If this case is not like that I can only hope that in the future its not too late to correct the wrongs done against Naveen Joshua and his mother.<br />
However, in the general scope of things some ladies were saying that no child should be separated from his or her mother,unless their inability to parent is obvious and overtly clear. I get it that no one here would &#8220;say give the child to the mother even if she&#8217;s physically abusive or drunk 24/7&#8243;.What I mean is that sometimes the neglect and the inability to parent is not obvious.In our case it wasn&#8217;t obvious,before the drunk driving joyride this woman took with a little 5 month old on tow everyone thought my husband was a cruel,nasty man who was using the baby to get back at the ex.So,to get the police,the courts and the lawyer to do something we had to wait for a drunk woman to endanger our daughter&#8217;s life.Then most people saw our side.Then my husband passed away and I (the nasty girlfriend turned evil wife and step-mother)had to fight for K&#8217;s sake.And still,with the RIGHT reasons you would expect,people around us are not satisfied.</p>
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		<title>By: l</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[phoebe, sorry, but I think that you&#039;re the one that missed the point here. Are you referring to me when saying that the mother in this case here has been compared to a murderess? If so, than let me tell you ... no, nowhere did I made such an allegation. Most people here who where defending the court&#039;s decision were saying that there ARE reasonable cases where it is in the child best interest to be separated from a parent and were trying to come up with logical answers to some people&#039;s views who think  that it&#039;s ALWAYS the best if a child is with his mother. We were not (or at least I wasn&#039;t) saying that this IS the case here. Note the difference. Bless your heart if you&#039;re still feeling for the&quot;abandoned&quot; parent in these situations, I feel for the child.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>phoebe, sorry, but I think that you&#8217;re the one that missed the point here. Are you referring to me when saying that the mother in this case here has been compared to a murderess? If so, than let me tell you &#8230; no, nowhere did I made such an allegation. Most people here who where defending the court&#8217;s decision were saying that there ARE reasonable cases where it is in the child best interest to be separated from a parent and were trying to come up with logical answers to some people&#8217;s views who think  that it&#8217;s ALWAYS the best if a child is with his mother. We were not (or at least I wasn&#8217;t) saying that this IS the case here. Note the difference. Bless your heart if you&#8217;re still feeling for the&#8221;abandoned&#8221; parent in these situations, I feel for the child.</p>
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		<title>By: hcecilia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hcecilia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, legal sole and physical custody doesn&#039;t mean Elena can&#039;t see her son. There is nothing that says he cannot see his mother. All that it spells out is that Naveen is the only one in that has the right to make decisions for Naveen Joshua, as well as live with him. Visitation is something that is given to a parent and though it&#039;s not stated in a report (as the contents of a court&#039;s decision is not entirely made public), it doesn&#039;t mean Elena can&#039;t see her son. I&#039;m saying this because I&#039;m going through a custody battle right now. I filled out the paperwork for our daughter and in print, the definitions don&#039;t say one parent can&#039;t see the other; that&#039;s for a judge to decide.

Ellen - Unfortunately, such stipulations on partners have to be made legally. It doesn&#039;t mean Barbara was controlling the situation like a &quot;replacement mother&quot;. Like I said above, I&#039;m going through the custody process and I had to write about how I&#039;d like visitation to go, so I put that I was fine with him being with his girlfriend during visitation. Since Elena accused Barbara of witchcraft, the case now pertains to Barbara because she allegedly want her son dead. It&#039;s not fair to attack Barbara because not all girlfriends are controlling and want to have the part of their partner&#039;s life that they didn&#039;t give them. Women always seem to want to blame the other woman in some way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, legal sole and physical custody doesn&#8217;t mean Elena can&#8217;t see her son. There is nothing that says he cannot see his mother. All that it spells out is that Naveen is the only one in that has the right to make decisions for Naveen Joshua, as well as live with him. Visitation is something that is given to a parent and though it&#8217;s not stated in a report (as the contents of a court&#8217;s decision is not entirely made public), it doesn&#8217;t mean Elena can&#8217;t see her son. I&#8217;m saying this because I&#8217;m going through a custody battle right now. I filled out the paperwork for our daughter and in print, the definitions don&#8217;t say one parent can&#8217;t see the other; that&#8217;s for a judge to decide.</p>
<p>Ellen &#8211; Unfortunately, such stipulations on partners have to be made legally. It doesn&#8217;t mean Barbara was controlling the situation like a &#8220;replacement mother&#8221;. Like I said above, I&#8217;m going through the custody process and I had to write about how I&#8217;d like visitation to go, so I put that I was fine with him being with his girlfriend during visitation. Since Elena accused Barbara of witchcraft, the case now pertains to Barbara because she allegedly want her son dead. It&#8217;s not fair to attack Barbara because not all girlfriends are controlling and want to have the part of their partner&#8217;s life that they didn&#8217;t give them. Women always seem to want to blame the other woman in some way.</p>
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		<title>By: Natasha</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natasha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ellen, it&#039;s sad that you feel that step-parents (married or not) are not ever considered a member of the family. I hope to God you never experience divorce because those ideas would find their way to your children.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen, it&#8217;s sad that you feel that step-parents (married or not) are not ever considered a member of the family. I hope to God you never experience divorce because those ideas would find their way to your children.</p>
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		<title>By: ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ellen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[meghan,
barbara is not family member to the boy. she‘s not his mom and even not his father‘s wife. if she‘s not boy‘s relative, being put on agreement just don‘t seem right i really don‘t think that being without his mom, just with father and some woman who can be his grandmother is best for the kid. he‘s just 3 years old and i strongly believe that he return to his moms soon.
i now that might seem not reasonable, but i can imagine myself at elena‘s place, loosing son to another woman, and considering barbara‘s age and kid being born during their break up and now being taken from his mom my mind is just screaming ‚surrogacy‘ right now. i really hope that this situation will turn out to the best for the boy and he will return to mother soon. no matter what happened, taking boy away in the court was too soon, not giving boy time to adjust to being away from mom. that poisoning thing is really strange but barbara being put in agreement is even stranger]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meghan,<br />
barbara is not family member to the boy. she‘s not his mom and even not his father‘s wife. if she‘s not boy‘s relative, being put on agreement just don‘t seem right i really don‘t think that being without his mom, just with father and some woman who can be his grandmother is best for the kid. he‘s just 3 years old and i strongly believe that he return to his moms soon.<br />
i now that might seem not reasonable, but i can imagine myself at elena‘s place, loosing son to another woman, and considering barbara‘s age and kid being born during their break up and now being taken from his mom my mind is just screaming ‚surrogacy‘ right now. i really hope that this situation will turn out to the best for the boy and he will return to mother soon. no matter what happened, taking boy away in the court was too soon, not giving boy time to adjust to being away from mom. that poisoning thing is really strange but barbara being put in agreement is even stranger</p>
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		<title>By: meghan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[meghan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ellen, its called breaking up and reconciling. It happens all the time. It is also unfair to say that Barbara is a stranger to the boy. I imagine the three of them spend time together on his visitations. Don&#039;t make this about Barbara. It is about Naveen and Elena and what is best for the child. I am floored by the ignorance running rampant through this thread. I think CBB should close this thread, because an appaling number of you are coming across as incredibly ignorant. Motherhood is not a god given right. It is a gift. If she is currently not up to the task, Naveen Joshua is in the best place with his father. YOu people probably thought it was unfair that Britney lost her kids when she was acting like a train wreck in full view of the press.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen, its called breaking up and reconciling. It happens all the time. It is also unfair to say that Barbara is a stranger to the boy. I imagine the three of them spend time together on his visitations. Don&#8217;t make this about Barbara. It is about Naveen and Elena and what is best for the child. I am floored by the ignorance running rampant through this thread. I think CBB should close this thread, because an appaling number of you are coming across as incredibly ignorant. Motherhood is not a god given right. It is a gift. If she is currently not up to the task, Naveen Joshua is in the best place with his father. YOu people probably thought it was unfair that Britney lost her kids when she was acting like a train wreck in full view of the press.</p>
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