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Update: Angelina Jolie talks to Vanity Fair about her family, Shiloh's birth and more

06/02/2008 at 11:20 AM ET

Angelinajoliebradpitt168214_cbb_2Update: More quotes added.

Originally posted May 30th: Angelina Jolie is known for her acting skills, but some people may say that she has become famous for her international family with fellow actor Brad Pitt, 44. The pair are parents to Maddox Chivan (born in Cambodia), 6 ½, Pax Thien (born in Vietnam), 4 ½, Zahara Marley (born in Ethiopia), 3 ½, and Shiloh Nouvel (born in Namibia), 2, and also have twins on the way

In a new interview with Vanity Fair, the 32-year-old shares her thoughts on her family.

When I was growing up I wanted to adopt, because I was aware there were kids that didn’t have parents. It’s not a humanitarian thing, because I don’t see it as a sacrifice. It’s a gift. We’re all lucky to have each other. I look at Shiloh — because, obviously, physically, she is the one that looks like Brad and I when we were little — and say, ‘If these were our brothers and sisters, how much would we have known by the time we were six that it took into our 30s and 40s to figure out?’ I suppose I’m giving them the childhood I always wished I had.

Continue reading for Angelina’s thoughts on her current pregnancy, Shiloh’s birth, the use of nannies and more.

On disciplining her kids:

You end up hearing yourself saying all those clichéd parent things: ‘I don’t care who started it, but I’m here to finish it.’ … [also] how my mom raised me, which is to figure out who I was and try to enhance my individual personality and not get in the way of it. But I can really discipline the kids when I need to.

On her adoption of Maddox:

A nurse came with Maddox and left 10 minutes after handing him over. I stared at this little guy. I didn’t know what to do. I called my mom. I remember saying, ‘Do kids have 2 or 10 bottles a day? I’m at a loss.’ I had never babysat, let alone …

On Shiloh’s name:

It’s a biblical name but we didn’t name her for that. It was a name my parents almost named their first child– there was a miscarriage: Shiloh Baptist. Because my father had been shooting in Georgia and that was the most southern name [my parents] could come up with. It’s a name I always liked. I used to go under it in hotels: Shiloh Baptist. I’d gone under it when [Brad] called hotel rooms where I was staying.

On religion:

[My mother] was Catholic but also a child of the 60s. She stopped going to confession at one point because she was having sex before marriage. To me, she represented what religion should be. She never preached. If things didn’t make sense to her, she never just accepted it. I had Communion, but she never forced me to go to church.

Brad got me this great thing for Christmas. It’s a bookshelf that has a book on every religion. That’s how we plan to raise our kids. Teach them about all religions. They can pick one or be a student of all of them. We’ll celebrate Kwanzaa for our girl. We’ll celebrate moon and water festivals for our boys. We’ll take them to temples in certain countries. Also to church.

On her mother Marcheline Bertrand’s death:

When [my mother] passed, I realized that somebody who lives life with that kind of dedication to their family is the most noble. I was aware of it growing up. I admired her. And I loved her. But in her passing she reminded me what matters. And what’s most fun—to put yourself aside for these other little people you’re raising.

Mad always knew my mom was sick. So when it happened, I sat him down and I told him how some people believe there’s a heaven where everybody goes and is together again. And they believe it’s very white and beautiful. And some believe — he’d just seen Casper — there are ghosts who are people and they are always around. And some believe it’s a long peaceful sleep.

When I told him, and I was crying, ‘Grand-mère died today, we won’t be able to see her anymore, but she’ll always be around,’ he said, ‘Like she’s here now? Like she’s in that chair?’ And I said, ‘Well, I suppose she could be.’ And he accepted it.

It’s funny. It’s like we teach kids the things that we want to believe. Then we see that they have such beautiful faith and it helps them go to bed and we’re in the other room not sleeping well.

On being pregnant:

I love it. It makes me feel like a woman. It makes me feel that all the things about my body are suddenly there for a reason. It makes you feel round and supple, and to have a little life inside you is amazing.

Also, I’m fortunate. I think some women have a different experience depending on their partner. I think that affects it. I happen to be with somebody who finds pregnancy very sexy. So that makes me feel very sexy.

On Shiloh’s birth:

We were in this little hospital in Africa when Shi was born. I don’t think there was anybody else in the hospital. It was just a little cottage, the three of us. It ended up being the greatest thing. We had wonderful doctors and nurses. It was lovely, very personal, all three in this sweet room. We had an American doctor with us, who had met the Namibian doctors, and they worked in tandem because it was a C-section and my first and we didn’t know the country. He spent a few weeks with us. There was only one pediatrician in town, and one anesthesiologist, who had to come in for that — you have to plan it.

I had a C-section and I found it fascinating. I didn’t find it a sacrifice and I didn’t find it a painful experience. I found it a fascinating miracle of what a body can do.

On nannies:

We don’t ever have anybody spend the night. We may have to adjust that when the next one comes. But we do have ladies that work with us, and they’re also from different cultures and back-grounds. One lady’s a Vietnamese teacher — wonderful. One is of Congolese descent from Belgium. Another is from the States and is really creative and does art programs.

On artists as parents:

Artists raise their kids differently. We communicate to the point where we probably annoy our children. We have art around the house, we have books, we go to plays, we talk. Our focus is art and painting and dress-up and singing. It’s what we love. So I think you can see how artists in some way raise other artists.

Source: Vanity Fair; Photo by Gareth Cattermole/Getty Images

Thanks to CBB reader Malia.

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angel on

nice family ,wish them all the best,i am happy that angie and her dad are menduing fences

shasha on

I love this family so much..angie is so smart and well rounded I love the way she views the world I wish I had some of those qualities.

stev on

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MB on

i love her description of a c-section. i think too many times people act like having a c-section is a horrible thing, or feel guilty b/c they were unable to give birth naturally. c-sections ARE miracles! it is amazing that we have that technology and that our bodies are capable of going through the surgery. no matter how delivery occurs, all women should be proud of themselves for creating a new life :-)

Stephany on

Oh, I just adore her. She’s way too amazing and giving.

blackrose on

“If these were our brothers and sisters, how much would we have known by the time we were six that it took into our 30s and 40s to figure out?’ I suppose I’m giving them the childhood I always wished I had.”

i dont get this.. lol please someone explain
i just adore Angelina!

Meg on

Interesting how she says “the next one” and “a little life” rather than “the next ones” or “two little lives”…

sigh on

Love love love her.

Lisa on

Thank you for saying that MB. Having had 2 c-sections and one vaginal birth, I agree. I have created 3 children and it is a miracle.

babyboopie on

I don’t get it either, blackrose! Maybe she’s just tired or we’re slow!

Faye on

Meg – This interview took place before she officially confirmed she was expecting twins. Usually these magazine interviews are done months before publication.

Blackrose – My interpretation of what she meant was that her children will be more enlightened and culturally aware at a younger age than she or Brad.

I’m looking forward to reading the rest of the interview.

brannon on

black rose … she is referring to Shiloh’s experience having siblings from different cultures. I think she meant if more people had more diversity in their lives, they would learn tolerance and acceptance at an earlier age? That’s my interpretation.

I love Angelina interviews and absolutely adore their family. I also agree with Brad – Angelina is truly someone who is even more – imagine that being possible! – stunningly beautiful when pregnant!

Britmama on

Maybe Angelina should run for president. The diversity things makes so much sense. Go Obama!

Kelly on

I enjoy this family too. I just had one issue with her comment that as an artist, she raises her children differently because “We have art around the house, we have books, we go to plays, we talk. Our focus is art and painting and dress-up and singing.” I am not an artist and I provide all of this to my children simply because I want them to be well rounded individuals.

Friggin_Boobs on

Awww, the bit she said about having an international family was cool, too bad it got left out…..

Jess on

Ange rocks! She and Brad are such brilliant parents…the children are gorgeous. :)

Friggin_Boobs on

Awww, the bit she said about having an international family was cool, too bad it got left out…..

sinclair on

growing up with diversity negates the need for so-called “tolerance and acceptance.” if you are immersed in various cultures, it’s no big deal. it’s really many in the western world that find difficulty in “accepting” those they consider to be “other.” BTW, Brannon, this is not directed at you, just the idea of “tolerating” someone or something implies a system of judgment that shouldn’t exist–even if unintentionally so.

Michelle on

OK…I like men….I love Brad Pitt. That said, I would seriously switch teams for this woman. She is just amazing. I would love to have her in my circle of friends.

Courtney on

I have really grown to like her. She is an amazing mother.

I think what she meant was that ehr kids will know by 6 what took her and Brad a much longer time to figure out.

I like to think that altho I am not on the same scale as her we raise our children in the same ways.

I travel the country for my work and take my kids with me. They know more nad have been more places than anyone else the same age here. I am a creative person ( a Jewelry Designer) and my kids learned colors by helping me design peices. They learned to count by counting how many beads we would need…etc. I really think that she is right that artists raise their children differntly. Its not better, its just different.

Judy on

Should be an interesting article. I’m most definitely buying this issue.

lg on

I agree with you Kelly… I too had a problem with that quote. My parents are not artists (my mom is a lawyer) and yet, this is how I was raised. We always had art around the house, went to museums, plays, had books, everything she described. Turns out, I’m not an artist either, and yet, this is also how I raise my own children. I dont think being an artist has anything to do with it. She makes it sound as if that makes them special.

Bancie1031 on

Thanks for the article piece, left me wanting me LOL (and yes I do understand that’s what it’s for). I agree with u Kelly ….. I might not be a “artist” BUT I do the same with my daughter.

Dee on

People please don’t take a wonderful article, and start disecting it to find flaws. Please stop taking it so personally.

Malya's Mommy on

i don’t get what was so offensive about her comments really people she was commenting on artists as parents Lol. Anyway they showed more of the pics on extra and she looks absolutely gorgeous. Faye i agree with everything you said.

Renee on

I think some people are taking select quotes literally like she is talking down about other families when that’s probably not the case. Children around the arts is sadly not as common as it use to be. Even seeing children enjoying reading has become sort of a rare thing which made me glad that so many children loved the Harry Potter series of books.

southernmom on

And to think a few years ago at an award show she crawled out of a limo and announced to the world what she and Billy Bob and just done inside that very limo. You’ve come a long way..

Judy on

Well, let’s face it, people — a lot of kids are coming up in homes where the only literature in the house is the tabloids and TV Guide. How many children are brought up to read for pleasure any more? And it’s showing up in the abominable literacy rate in this country. You’d think we lived in the third world. In my office I’m seeing recent college graduates who can’t put together a coherent sentence on paper without six grammatical errors and five spelling errors. If Angie hit a nerve with that interview, good for her.

sadie on

Blackrose, I think she meant that Shiloh doesn’t see different colours and races in her childhood, she just sees her brothers and sisters who she loves. And if everyone had that experience in childhood, we would all be more accepting of all races, religions, creeds etc as adults. That’s my interpretation!

GroundRules on

I guess some folks don’t feel good if they bring up her past. The only celeb whose past is NEVER to be forgotten. And for future reference she never uttered such a thing, it was BillyBob. And regardless of how anyone felt about that, that was her husband, not some man she has just picked up on the street.

Mary on

I agree with the above comments. She was not acting superior in what she said. Unfortunately, too many children and adults don’t own or read books, go to museums or appreciate art. Video games are about as “intelectual” as they get for some. She sounds very old fashioned to me and that is a good thing. The photos are magnificent and her attitude is lovely in the few comments that were published.

FYI, it was Billy Bob who said they had just done it in the limo, not her. But yes, she has come a long way. She and Brad are a lovely couple and they have a great family. Thanks.

Cheri on

What a wonderful interview. Those kids are so lucky to be able to have the experiences they are having, and two parents that seem to love their children and each other so much. Blending all those races and cultures into one big loving family is so great.

Bancie1031 on

I don’t honestly think that Angie was been rude or downgrading other parents by suggesting they didn’t expose their children to the same thing ….. I know/think all she was saying is that instead of letting her kids sit around playing video games all day (which I know that not all parents do but there are some that fall in that category) she and Brad entertain them by doing more artistic things like when she said We have art around the house, we have books, we go to plays, we talk; We communicate to the point where we probably annoy our children. They focus their children’s attention on other things. I was being a little sarcastic with Kelly – no offense – by saying yes normal parents do the same for their children not just artist, but it was an innocent statement being scrutinized. I believe that’s why she made the statement “So I think you can see how artists in some way raise other artists.”. And yes I too remember the Angelina and Billy Bob incident on the red carpet but Angie has matured a great deal since and has surpassed that unfortunate moment in her life that has made her part of the woman she is now and has become.

Erin on

I don’t think she meant a C-section was a miracle, but that birth was. She seemed to be focusing on the fact that she didn’t think of birth as “painful” (even though it is), but that it’s a wonderful thing.

SJ on

Parts of that interview left a rather rotten taste in my mouth. She tends to come across quite smug about her partner and the fact that some women don’t have a partner to make them feel sexy. Come on, Angie! You were a single parent once and you didn’t say these things. I have to wonder whose benefit she said that for? I don’t think pregnant women need to feel sexy. To me pregnancy is not about how sexual you are. Your body is there for nine months to provide for this baby. I think she said that to say “I’m still Angelina Jolie.”

What do others think of those comments?

Harry on

Oh please like this woman has three nannies who she calls “ladies” – why not just call them nannnies – oh yeah, then you would have to admit that you actually don’t do most of the parenting yourself. I think her children would probably appreciate time from their parents than more siblings – like saying you don’t have anyone stay overnight – it’s just more celebrities pretending they are real parents. Tell me what real parent has the time to go to premieres or even to put make up. In the real world what mother of four children under the age of 7 would even be able to leave the house on a daily basis? Please stop feeding us rubbish and expecting us to buy it – you do not live in the real world. The reason there was no one else in the hospital in Namibia is because probably the poor women in the third world who actually needed to use it weren’t allowed to use it for security reasons to protect over pampered celebrities who blatantly have no concept of the real world.

Pejaluver on

Posted by: southernmom at May 30, 2008 9:23:21 PM

Bill Bob said that not Angelina.

Regarding artists, she’s talking about her family and what goes on in her house whole.

Lisa on

Angelina is a very intresting person. I definetelly agree with her on the way artists raise their children. I’m an artist myself and everytime my kids get upset or angry with something we just sit down and they describe everything that they’re feeling, why they’re feeling this, what we can do to make it go away..Is a very awesome method, because they grow up being very aware of their feelings.

Brooke on

Love her comments on having a c-section. Beautifully worded…

Amanda on

To the poster who said that a pregnant woman doesn’t need to feel sexy…what? Women in general have a need and a want to feel sexy, and, well, needed and wanted. That doesn’t go away just because our uterus hangs up the “No Vacancy” sign. That being said, I don’t see how what Angelina said could be interpreted as her being anythng but grateful that she has a partner who makes here feel good about herself. And it’s true that not everybody has that…a friend of mine had a partner who wouldn’t touch her when she was pregnant. He told her that her body was disgusting to him. I am continually flabbergasted at some of the comments here, and how the words of not only Angelina but other celebs as well, are twisted into meaning something other than exactly what the celebrity meant them to mean.

Lindsay on

Amanda, no one is twisting her words. This happens to people everyday we say something and it comes out wrong or we write something and people misunderstand what we were trying to convey. The thing is we don’t know exaclty what she was trying to say we can only interpret.
SJ is right no one needs to feel sexy but we want to feel sexy even pregnant women.

jodie on

I find her so pretentious and full of herself. I truly could not stomach that interview. For someone so into parenting it’s amazing she can’t reach into her heart and forgive her father.

Judy on

Amanda, any man who thinks his pregnant partner’s body is “disgusting” (wasn’t he the one who got her into that shape?) has the emotional maturity of a six-year-old. I hope your friend had the strength to kick the creep to the curb and find a real man. She deserves better.

brooke on

All her interviews bascially say the same thing, so nothing new in my opnion

Lauren on

SJ, Angelina has said/done more than one thing I don’t agree with, but I honestly have no idea how one could read her comments about having a partner who makes her feel sexy while pregnant and say she is being smug. Pregnancy is and can be a sexy thing depending on how you look at it. What could be sexier than carrying the human being you and your partner created out of love for one another? If she feels sexy while pregnant and views it as something more than nine months of carrying a baby inside her, I say more power to her.

And I agree that after all the outright nasty comments as of late on the subject, her comments regarding her C-section were a total breath of fresh air. It’s unfortunate that so many people view as a failure what she views as a miracle.

Lisa R on

Spout all she wants, she still broke up a marriage to get the man she wanted and she can save every orphan in the world, still doesn’t make her much more than a “you know what”….

Renee on

SJ, I have a feeling that if any other celebrity said those comments you are being negative towards, you would have no issue with them. It seems like to me that some people just dislike her so much that they want to analyze anything she says to justify not liking her even when she’s not saying anything bad like this interview.

sunny on

And to think a few years ago at an award show she crawled out of a limo and announced to the world what she and Billy Bob and just done inside that very limo.
Posted by: southernmom

*****
It was Billy Bob who told to the press.
Your memory came from reading a tabloid story?

Charity on

She is the most amazing woman. She has given a great life to each one of her children and is continually trying to better the world. Which is more than most of us do or have done. To all of you who say we don’t need to feel sexy, we want to feel sexy, that is wrong. Which way do you feel better? When someone you love tells you how beautiful and desirable you are or when that person cuts you down and you feel worthless and ugly? Emotions are a huge part of life. Just because of who she is, everyone assumes that she has great self esteem and loves herself. She has openenly admitted she has major self esteem issues. Everyone on this planet does. If she finally found that breathtaking, amazing, once in a lifetime kind of love, good for her! She is very lucky to have that! Every woman deserves that. I am 8 months pregnant right now, and if it weren’t for my husband telling me how beautiful I was, I would be a crying, sad pile of fatness.

I also agree with Meg – it is very interesting how she talks about having only one baby and not twins. Whether this interview was done months ago or not, most doctors do an ultrasound at 3 months, so she would have known a while ago. I have never heard Angelina herself admit to being pregnant with twins. Her co-workers have said it instead.

rachelsun on

Great interview and totally understand what she is saying is from her POV and not a condemnation of any one else’s POV.

Totally agree w/ Renee’s comment.

Bancie1031 on

I think she might not have known she was pregnant with twins yet….. sometimes early on when they do the ultrasounds one could have been hiding behind the other ….. or she might not have wanted to out that piece of information yet.

Delilah on

I think she was responding as to her feelings on pregnancy as a state (as a whole so to speak) meaning you having a life growing inside you, not THIS specific pregnancy (as she is carrying twins)
She loves the feeling of being pregnant.

I thought it was a lovely interview.

brannon on

Beautiful interview and I love her take on religion. I see no smugness in feeling sexy. I see only beauty in loving the miracle of birth – no matter how it happens. I see no problem in feeling as if artists raise other artists. I also doubt anybody in here has a past free of error.

Amanda on

SJ, I think rather than calling Angelina smug, a more appropriate word would be ‘greatful’.

As you mentioned in your own post, Angelina was a single mother before she met Brad. Her own mother was a single mother. Therefore, she knows what it’s like to put so much time and effort into raising your child and not have a partner who appreciates that effort.

Now she has Brad who not only shares the child-rearing duties with her, but makes her feel sexy and beautiful when she’s pregnant or sick or recovering from a C-Section. Not every woman in the world is lucky enough to have a partner like that. EVERY pregnant woman, heck every woman period, has had days where they like to be told that they’re sexy or beautiful. There’s nothing wrong with that like you seem to be making out.

You can call that smug if you like. I disagree. It’s simply the words of someone who has finally found true happiness that had eluded her for so long. I say good for her and may Brad tell her every day how sexy she is. Because if he doesn’t, I’m more than willing to.

ana on

Just a little comment on the quote about artists as parents. You have to read the whole article(Vanity Fair site) to understand what she meant. The interviewer asked is it kind of nepotism that so many children of artists become artists. That was her answer. It is always kind of unfair to dissect the aricle and take quotes out, because people make their oppinions without knowing the whole context.
BTW, love Angelina – as always refreshingly honest and interesting!

SJ on

Sorry, girls, I don’t mean to stir anything up, but I am of the opinion that she is saying it for someone’s benefit.

Gena on

“We’ll celebrate Kwanzaa for our girl” is that a jewish holiday? is so if brad or ANgie Jewish?

Terri on

The rest of the article (at least her quotes)are quite sweet, especially about her children, her mother and Brad. I also think that any woman, celebrity or not, wants to feel desired by her partner, no matter what her body looks like. So Brad thinking she is sexy pregnant is also sweet, not smug.

To her and hopefully many other women, it is a great time–new life, big belly and still beautiful as well as sexy. From what I have seen, she does look sexy pregnant and is quite happy to show off her rounder, pregnant self. Thanks.

sinclair on

“We’ll celebrate Kwanzaa for our girl.”

Uh, Kwanzaa, while a celebration of African and Pan-African cultures, is an American creation. Zahara’s Ethiopian roots and traditions are important–focus on that, Angie. While she may be raising her in America, hopefully Angie and Brad are taking the time to learn about Ethiopia, not just profess that they’ll maintain Zahara’s African roots through a holiday.

J.M. on

I think it’s great that she’s going to raise the kids with the knowledge off all religions. If more people did that the world would be more accepting of one another. I think it’s great when kids can grow up and decide for themselves what they believe in. I’m so happy my mother allowed my brother and I to do the same. Bravo Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt!

Amanda on

Whose benefit exactly? I don’t get it. Am I missing something?

NLT on

SJ: Well, you know what they say about opinions…everyone has one.

Candice on

Are you kidding, Gena? You’re thinking of Hanukkah.

Anyways, I love this interview. Angelina is such a smart, interesting woman and I really enjoy reading her views on things, especially parenthood.

rachel on

she & brad are overrated. there are ordinary couples out there doing the same thing with their children, but no one cares about them. i wonder how she will lose the weight? i have 1 year old girl twins, and it is very hard to lose the extra belly. she ‘ll probably just pay for lipo & tummy tuck!!! i feel bad for jen.

tan on

That was a very great article on her.I love how she put things.Especially C-section.I’m having my third this fall and I use to feel like my body wasn’t strong enough to have a vaginal but I really had to think about it and to listen to someone that had their first C-section and put it that way just makes me feel lucky I did.People do put it in bad terms when you mention the words.

I too celebrate Kwanzaa on

Kwanzaa may be an American tradition but it is derived from the first-fruit celebrations of ancient Egypt. It is a way for African-Americans to reconnect to their African roots, embrace family, and to act as global citizens.

Brad and Angelina have spoken repeatedly of keeping Zahara in touch with her continent and country of birth through the history and traditions and by starting a foundation in Zahara’s name in Ethiopia. The same is true for the boys and for Shiloh. For Shiloh they have talked about increasing their involvement, Angelina has been involved in scholarship programs, in Native American issues here in the States. I’m pretty sure all the children will have strong sense of self.

Judy on

Gena, and anyone else unfamiliar with Kwanzaa, check this out:

http://www.officialkwanzaawebsite.org/index.shtml

Sinclair is right — Kwanzaa is an Afro-American invention, not an African holiday. Most Africans have never heard of Kwanzaa. It is a way of reconnecting African-American families to their African roots, and a lot of black Americans celebrate it. Contrary to what a lot of people believe, Kwanzaa is NOT a religion in any sense of the word; it’s a cultural celebration and there is no reason why anyone cannot both celebrate Christmas and Kwanzaa.

Kat on

I love that they are going to celebrate Kwanzaa for Zee and that they will keep the other celebrations for the boys that are from their original countries and heritages… that’s just so important, I think.

Angie is just such a great mom, it seems.

Ang on

I must say something that may or may not get posted – I truly do not mean any offense. Someone made a comment earlier about why so many people find so many negative things to say about this woman, and I want to comment on why I personally have such a problem with Angelina Jolie. I really, really want to like her. I promise. I just feel like every time I hear one of her interviews on family and values, I cannot take her seriously. I will say that she DOES seem like a great mom, but I do have a problem with the fact that I still think she stole someone else’s husband. And I think it’s so strange that she and BP were like – bam! Instant family! I’m sorry, but that is so odd to me. I can’t help it. I know I’m in the minority here, but I just can’t admire someone like that. That’s just my take on her…

sheba on

I think these excerpts are great. She is talking about her life and her man and her children and her body and people are projecting their own issues on to her.

What I like about AJ is people put a lot of negative energy on her and she just “brushes her shoulders off”.

Gena on

I’m sorry if offended by asking a question. I’m not very reglious. So i’m not sure on the reglious holidays.

Candice- I think i was think of that.

Judy- Thanks for the info.

Judy on

Ooops… edit to post above. It should read “Kwanzaa is not a religious holiday”.

homefly on

I had a cesarean and I didn’t find it a “fascinating miracle of what a body can do.” Pregnancy, yes, was a fascinating miracle about what a body can do. The delivery? No. I didn’t “do” anything for the birth. I showed up, got anesthetized, and was strapped to a table and had my baby surgically extracted from me. Not a lot of work from me on that part. The recovery? That’s a whole other story…

NLT on

Ang: I never knew that a person could be “stolen”. From what I understand, Brad already had one foot out the door, no matter how “others” chose to spin it.

People aren’t stolen; they leave. That wasn’t the first Hollywood marriage to end, nor will it be the last.

Pejaluver on

I remembered celebrating Kwanzaa in elementary school and thought it was interesting.

I really like that Brad and Angelina celebrate Mid Autumn Moon festival. It’s a fun holiday for the children.

Britmama on

Ang, I do agree with your post. She is not my favourite person and she does seem to court the media, as much as any other celebrity does these days.

I think she should really stick to promoting her movies, so misinterpretation of her words would be kept to a minimum. We all have opinions and people will say whatever they want, this is the age of blogging etc.

Discussions re methods of birthing; celebrating religious traditions etc. can go on forever. Each to their own, I say.

It is commendable that they have adopted children from other countries and wish to show how much better the world would be if we all ‘got along.’ I hope people realise that a lot of problems in this country especially could be diminished by more people of different races and religions living in the same neighbourhoods and respecting each other as friends. The polarization by the media of voters in this year’s general election is shocking and sad.

There is too much distrust in the world. I hope it gets better.

She and Pitt appear to have been emotionally involved during filming of M&MS. You tend to gravitate towards what you want and away from something that is not quite what you expected it to be.

They could have used more tact in their personal lives, but I don’t think that is something either of them possess.

Hopefully the kids will grow up to be great people in their own rights.

Annie on

Kwanzaa does not celebrate Z’s heritage. You will not find an African who celebrates that holiday. Ethiopians have plenty of rich traditions, but Kwanzaa is not one of them. It is an African-American tradition. Period. Angie should do some research on this.

“Kwanzaa may be an American tradition but it is derived from the first-fruit celebrations of ancient Egypt. ” Zahara is not Egyptian, she is Ethiopian. Kwanzaa was intended to give African-Americans a cultural celebration that is connected to the continent. Ethiopia is on the continent of Africa, and Ethiopians do not need to celebrate it to connect to the continent. I apologize for any snark in this post, but Ethiopians have a rich cultural heritage and a minimal effort is required to learn about it. You’d be surprised if she made Maddox, who is Cambodian, celebrate Japanese festivals just because he is Asian. The same can be said about making an Ethiopian celebrate Kwanzaa.

Courtney on

OK, I have to say that in the beginning I did not like her for the fact that I too think that it was made to seem that she took someone elses husband. BUT thats how the media wanted it played. And its not our business…

I think she is a WONDERFUL parent, and Brad too. How can you look at them any other way? How can you hold what happened in the past against them. They are strong and united and very much in love with each other. You would have to be blind not to see it.

I have had 3 vaginal deliveries and 1 c sect and ALL of my diliveries were facinating and miraculous. I didnt feel any differnt between the 2 differnt “types” of birth. I have said this before on here…I do not look at my son and say “man, you came by csection, i think i will love you differntly”. And to be very honest, I sometimes forget I had a c section….

brannon on

I’ve never been able to figure out why so many people claim Angelina “stole” Brad Pitt. You rarely hear this about any other couple — there are sooooo many! Like it or not, it is not a rare occurance for marriages to break up and for people to enter new relationships quickly. They have obviously proved they are in love and this family is no better proof of that. Also, for those of you questioning Angelina’s understanding of her children’s cultures — seriously?!

I also love the reasoning behind Shiloh’s name — I always wondered :) ALl of their children have names that would be hard to “duplicate” — can’t wait to hear the new ones!

Amanda on

“You will not find an African who celebrates that holiday.”
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With all due respect, you’re hardly the spokesperson for all living Africans, are you? So that’s a pretty bold statement to make.

My understanding of Kwanzaa, limited though it may be, is that it is a holiday celebrated by Africans and African Americans. I think you’ll find Zahara falls into both catergories.

Zahara was born in Ethiopia. Ethiopia is in Africa. Just because Ethiopians have other cultural practices, that’s not to say that they cannot and should not celebrate Kwanzaa.
In fact, I used to work with a woman from Australia who used to celebrate it because she believed in their principles. By your logic, only African American’s should be allowed to celebrate it, right?

Angelina never said Kwanzaa celebrated Zahara’s heritage. But what it does is exposes her (and her family) to it’s teachings which are universal.

Also, with regards to the ‘instant family’ comment made by Ang, that’s just the way it goes for some people. Angelina was a single mother before she met Brad and was in the process of adopting Zahara. He wanted in on their family; that’s what he got. It’s not like they got together and then started having kids left, right and centre. Angelina already had two who Brad adopted, then they had a further two together.

Also, it’s not like Angelina bundled Brad up, chucked him the back of a van and forced him to have babies with her. He left his wife by his own free will. It happens. That’s not to say he was stolen. He’s a grown man, I’m sure he can make his own decisions no matter what the tabloids would have you believe. It’s been over 3 years, it’s time to let it go already.

Jennifer on

I think it’s great to adopt, but I know many women who can’t have children and can’t afford to adopt. Nonetheless, if you want that many children and you believe in wanting them to have parents to grow up with then why pay “somewhat of a nanny” that doesn’t spend the night but helps you corral your kids all day long until they’re tired. Us middle class citizens that have big families can do it without help during the day and that is with six kids and sports involved. I guess you have to have the money!

Malya's Mommy on

From my understanding Jennifer one of the women is a translater for pax because he is sitll adjusting to the english langauge, one is a tutor, and the other is a nanny. i missed the part were she says she has three nannies. and from the pics that i have seen on other sites they mostly only have one nanny with them when they are traveling.

Jerri on

The discussion about Kwanzaa is of course not always based on definition or fact and as with everything with this family, especially Angelina, gets way too emotional. As an African American who does not actively celebrate it, I decided to look it up and here is what it says:

#1:

Kwanzaa (matunda ya kwanza, Swahili for “first fruits”) is an African American holiday observed by African communities throughout the world that celebrates family, community, and culture. It is a seven-day holiday that begins December 26 and continues through January 1.
#2
Kwanzaa, (matunda ya kwanza, Swahili for “first fruits”), an African American holiday observed by African communities throughout the world that celebrates family, community, and culture. It is a seven-day holiday that begins December 26 and continues through January 1. Kwanzaa has its roots in the ancient African first-fruit harvest celebrations from which it takes its name.

Therefore, yes, it is basically African American BUT it is based on African principles and celebrated around the world, including Africa. Yes, Zahara is from Ethiopia, but is also African, so this is a perfectly appropriate holiday for a child as I am sure they also celebrate Christmas.

We know both of her parents will make sure she knows where she comes from along with Maddox and Pax and anyone else they adopt, as well as their biological children.

PS: Please stop with the “she stole Brad”. As someone else said, then all those other people who got together with their married co-stars (and are now married to each other) are just as guilty. Thanks.

Natasha on

Ang it was really no use posting that here, because most people posting here are Angelina fans who deny she could ever do anything wrong. (Hey I’m like that with Victoria Beckham too, I stick up for her everytime)

Britmama on

Hey, what happened to my post reply to Ang?

I think all angles should be covered here!

Ellen on

I like reading her interviews. She seems very down to earth, and seems like she’s telling her true thoughts and feelings. It’s refreshing not to hear the regular old PR fluff…you know, when you can tell a celebrity is being vague, generic and tip-toeing around real feelings.

That said, I don’t think she spends time figuring out ways to hurt J.Aniston…which is what I think a couple of commenters have tried to imply. Sounds like those commenters have loyalty to JA, and want to find some more excuses to get angry at Angelina Jolie. Why would she care? She has the man, the family, the life. What’s there to be jealous of the ex-wife for?! I think she is just expressing that she has a loving guy who makes her feel sexy, even when she feels bloated and swollen.

40 and fabulous on

Angelina is stronger than I originally thought. In order to steal Brad she must have swept him away in the fireman’s carry position and run like heck. Beautiful, talented, a humanitarian and as strong as an ox. Is there anything this woman can’t do? Or maybe Brad was unhappy in his marriage and made a choice to end it. Nah, that can’t be it.

Anyway, this was a nice interview. The highlights for me were how she told Maddox of Marcheline’s passing, how Shiloh got her name, and Angelina’s obvious love and respect for Brad.

Sarita on

I don’t understand why many people are so angry with Angelina but not anywhere near as angry with Brad. He was the one that was far more in the wrong; he was married, she wasn’t.

And even if you don’t agree with how their relationship started is that really a reason to pick everything she says apart? So Kwanzaa is an African American thing? Well, Zahara is African American now, perfect holiday for her.

I thought this was a great interview, thanks for typing it up!

fyi on

Not to offend anyone but my personal opinion is that they both seem like faux intelligents. And people need to stop acting like they personally know them. If someone doesn’t care for Pitt’s adultery with Jolie, then that person should feel free to say so. I mean, nothing stops people from posting anything else about the Jolie-Pitts (i.e. kids, movies, or humanitarian work. Why should their affair be off topic?)

Also, I can’t help but think that if it had been any other actress discussing how fascinating C-sections are, the women at this board would have torn her to pieces. But because it’s Angelina, people who never agreed with c-sections before now think they are cool. Just sayin’……….

And one more thing, I find it hard to believe that Angelina and Brad celebrate Kwanzaa and stay in touch with Zahara’s ethnic background when they don’t even handle her hair appropriately. Shiloh’a hair looks nice and maintained, and Zahara looks like Buckwheat.

Cora on

Jennifer – I don’t understand your logic. Are you implying that because some women manage without nannies, that it’s only right for Brad and Angelina to manage without help also? As far as I can see, our only concern (in every situation) should be the children. If parents can afford to hire people who will enrich their children’s lives, give them a break and allow them to be better parents, what is there to lose?

Amanda – I agree with everything you wrote. I love that the Jolie-Pitts will be taught about every religion and allowed to explore and choose themselves.

About the Kwanzaa debate – does it really matter? Zahara and the other children are citizens of the world, in effect. Ethiopia is her cultural heritage so it seems very appropriate to celebrate an African American festival with her, as like Amanda said, she falls into both categories. Besides which, I’m fairly sure Zahara will be given the opportunity to visit and spend time in her home country (just as Madd did in Cambodia) so it’s a bit far fetched to say Angelina’s not exposing her to true Ethiopian culture.

Hoping they stay in France on

Ang i dont disagree with you at all. People are so touchy when it comes to this family and frankly i think they are overrated. I mean people negatively judge other celebs based on the pictures they see and then positively judge Brangelina based on the pictures they see of them, very double standard. I dont doubt they love their kids but I dont buy into the whole “sainthood” thing that people have put them up as (and yes some of the comments do pretty much regard them to such status, despite protesting that im just making stuff up) Im not saying she is a bad person but how can you people be so sure that she is so good? She gives to charity, helps the world….as do many other people, but the difference is they dont head back to their mansion or their private planes once its all done, im not talking about a photo op visit i mean REALLY live it. If suri cruise was able to be born in the USA, Im not sure why they had to fly to Africa for the “privacy”… Anyway I doubt this message will be posted, due to the fact that it is not a high praise for CBB’s favorite stars, but just remember; when Mia Farrow adopted tons of kids, people thought she was a crazy loon, now Angelina does it and she is the best thing in the world. I mean imagine if another celeb kept having and adopting babies, you would all be saying “she should slow down, how can she bond with all her kids”… but no, different rules for Angelina and Brad.
I prefer Johnny Depp and Vanessa Paradis; beautiful kids, quiet, makes movies that are hits and might donate to charity but keeps it quiet, like a humble person

PJ on

I also love Angelina and Brad’s methodology for letting there children choose there own religions. I was raised in a very religious household and I found, on my own, that the best way to get a relationship with God is to do it on your own. I think that is a great way to instill individuality and a sense of self in a child. Not ingraining something in there head and letting them decide on there own is the best way! At least to me! That said, I love Angie and Brad! I just love the whole family! They are incredible! Such a beautiful bunch!!!

I am so happy to see how much Angelina has changed since her creepy Billy Bob-limo sex-French Kissing Brother-blood vial around the neck-days. She has truly matured!

I can’t wait to see these next two little girls!

Sabina on

I love this family and how Angie teaches the kids love has no boundries or color. Wish more people were like her and Brad.

(LOVE- J ) on

I love the Jolie-Pitts family.

ana on

Wow, Hope they stay in France,

You obviously never visited and orphanage and held an orphan child or baby in your arms. Don’t be so harsh and don’t judge something that is out of your comfort zone.

MaríaM2 on

I will never get why it is so important for some to make sure others know just how not impressed they are with Angelina and Brad.

I also will never their compulsion to chase down every site on the WEB (“no matter if it’s one pertaining to Celeb babies, or Celeb pets”) solely for the purpose of assuring the world in 20,000 words and no less, that “they” don’t worship the couple, and making also certain that a way is found to insult the intelligence of anyone who doesn’t share their opinion.

MaríaM2 on

Zahara celebrating Kwanza is no odder than my Jewish friends from Ethiopia celebrating Christmas AND Kwanza. What is wrong with any of it? Who makes the rules stating one can’t do or be because of where they are or aren’t from?

blackrose on

soo was like Angelina baptized?? and wat about brad??

Cora on

“She gives to charity, helps the world….as do many other people, but the difference is they dont head back to their mansion or their private planes once its all done, im not talking about a photo op visit i mean REALLY live it.”

Angelina has been working with UNHCR for many years (she went on her first field trip to Sierra Leone in 2001, long before she had ever met Brad Pitt, and there were no photographers there – she lived in the field with the aid workers, went on their convoys, slept in the same buildings they did, ate the food they ate). It’s wrong to suggest she only goes where there are photo ops, and doesn’t really live it. There is a lot we don’t see.

Although of course ever since she partnered another celebrity, their charity work is going to be documented more – and they do take advantage of that, because it means more people become aware of the charity itself when more cameras are there. Brad and Angelina cop a lot of negativity but they continue regardless because there are things more important than what people think of them.

Amanda on

“when Mia Farrow adopted tons of kids, people thought she was a crazy loon, now Angelina does it and she is the best thing in the world.’”
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You’re kidding right? Angelina and Brad get attacked left, right and centre about how many children they have and how many children they plan to have.

And does it really matter that they went to Africa for Shiloh’s birth? Angelina and Brad decided to go to Africa and that was their PERSONAL choice. Much in the same way Tom and Katie choose to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on Suri’s clothing.

Lastly, as an Angelina fan of many years, it annoys me when people can’t or don’t understand her humanitarian work. It’s not simply going to a country, having a few photos taken then giving them a couple of million dollars and hoping everything will be alright. It means reading, educating yourself, attending meetings all over the world with high-powered officials. It means going to those countries (even if it puts you in danger) and really understanding what’s happening and how it can be changed. It means making much more of an effort at government level to instigate statutory change and increase government support for struggling countries. Angelina did all that, does all that and will continue doing all that. It’s her right afterwards to go home to her family and if that’s in a mansion that’s worth more money than you and I will ever earn in our lives than so be it. She’s earned that money and unlike the majority of other Hollywood stars, she is willing to share it with the rest of the world, not just sit on her tush in Malibu, spending her days shopping and sunbathing.

cassie on

Amanda most celebs have nannies and they only have one or 2 kids so what you said should apply to them as well.

now i agree that you don’t need nannies to rise 6 kids my parents made a great job of it on their own.

Britmama on

Hoping they stay in France and Ang:

I do agree with your comments.

My reply to Ang did not get posted, unfortunately!!

Annie on

My point is that Africa is a continent, not a country. I doubt a person raising a Czech baby would celebrate Italian festivals with that baby because they celebrate “European principles.” Americans seem to perceive Africa as a large country, whereas each country has a rich cultural heritage. Some African countries have hundreds of native languages, dozens of tribes, each with different histories and traditions. I simply do not see the need to throw in an African-American holiday, which most African-Americans do not celebrate, into the mix. It seem like a shallow attempt to incoporate what mainstream Americans think black people do.

I have lived in Africa, am African, and know many Africans. Most don’t celebrate Kwanzaa. African-American culture is distinct from African culture. I, like Z, am African who is also American.

blackrose on

so was like angelina baptized?? and wat about brad?.. i love this family!! cant wait to see the twins!

sigh on

The Brady Bunch was a middle class family with six kids, and *they* had a nanny/housekeeper. Actually Alice started out with just Mike and the boys, so obviously he was just being a lazy bum if he needed help with three kids!!11eleventy!1

Seriously, folks. It’s time to lose the jealousy and attitude over the wealth of other people.

NLT on

About the nannies: I’m pretty sure they have them because of the kinds of jobs they have. If Angie is going to D.C. for a meeting and Brad is making a movie, wouldn’t it make sense to have a few nannies around?

Fathers are great, but, when Moms away, sometimes, it’s nice to have a little help.

Raising 6 kids on your own is great, but, many times, that’s only the case if one of the parents don’t work. I’d like to hear an example of 2 full-time working parents that raised 6 kids with no babysitters, no grandparents helping out, no preschool, no daycare. THAT would impress me.

And, please, liking Angelina Jolie is not a requirement. If you don’t, keep it moving. It won’t effect those that do either way.

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